Update on boxer with ear problems

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  1. lauriej57

    lauriej57 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but I apparently don't know how to find the orginal thread I posted a while back.

    My 5 month old boxer, Rocky, has had problems with his ears, the skin on his ears, inside and out, not down inside his ears for a couple of months now.

    He's been on antibiotics, creams, and nothing has seemed to work. 10 days ago, they put him on a stronger antibiodic, and took cultures. It's not mange, it's not mites, they called tonite, and said he has ringworm.

    Tomorrow we are suppose to go pick up the new lotion, omg, he now hates his ears touched, and a shampoo.

    His ears have gotten better, not great, but better in the past week. I've been online investigating ringworm, and most of the sites say it will eventually run it's course, and are vague about it being contagious. Our other two dogs show no sign of it.

    We also have chickens. Our vet says that it is very rare that it will be passed from dogs to chickens, or the other way around. My chickens seem to be really heatlhy. He also said that as long as the people around him are healthy, with no other skin conditons, it's rare that it will be transmitted to us.

    First of all, I'm a bit ticked off that it took almost 2 months for them to figure out what it is, and because of this, I'm still not sure this is what he really has.

    Have any of you dealt witht this before?

    We've already spent alot of money on this, and I'm wondering if we might be safe to just let it run it's course, or should I pick up the medications tomorrow and probably spend another $50.

    Thank you
     
  2. Willowynd

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    For ringworm you can use an OTC althetes foot creme like Lotromin. Yes, ringworm is contagious if you are susceptible to it. Many times cats will carry it and infect others. I got it from a cat twice. If you have children, please do not let them handle the dog and keep the dog out of contact with other dogs and cats- and wash your hands well after handling him. Since it is contagious, I would not let it run its course.
     

  3. farmmom

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    In the right conditions, ringworm can be transmitted to another animal or you. Usually, a weakened immune system due to other illness, other skin abrasions giving an opening for it to get started, etc. Just be careful to scrub thoroughly after handling him. The poor fellow must be miserable!

    I agree! Get it treated. Sometimes it will take more than one course of medication to get it, especially if it has gone on for a long time.
     
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    It is contagious! My daughter caught it at school and passed it to her dog!
     
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    Did they shine a black light on it to verify ringworm? When you shine a black light on it glows if it's ringworm. They should have done this when they were first trying to figure out what it was. I would be ticked off too. I'm sorry your having a hard time. There are oral medications for ringworm that work better and faster than any creams. I can't remember what it's called but ask for that...along with the cream. And yes it is contagious but when you get it enough times you can become immune to it.
     
  6. Willowynd

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    The oral medication is Griseofulvin $$$ that is why I did not mention it. I paid like $3-4 a pill when I had a pup come back from showing in other states with it. I still have some and that was 6-7 yrs ago as I could not see pitching them at that cost! Of course since I have it on hand, we have not had another case since LOL
     
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    Griseofulvin or the generic fulvicin is very hard on the liver and a long term treatment, think weeks of pills. I would be very surprised if your dog has ringworm just on its ears. Generally Ringworm manifests itself under duress in times of stress, as in rehoming or pregnancy. Check it yourself with a cheap black light bulb in a dark room... it it glows yes its ringworm... if its ringworm, skip the pricy creams and shampoos and give the dog a betadine dip. you'll have an orange dog for a bit but it WILL get rid of the ringworm.

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  9. lauriej57

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    I have my doubts as to whether it is ringworm also. Mainly, because if it is contagious, it seems as though either hubby or I, or our other 2 dogs. would show signs of it. From my searches, and from what our vet tells us, it usually will infect younger dogs, since their immune system is lower than in adult dogs, and humans with lower immune systems. Hubby does have a low immune system, so why doesn't he have it. Rocky is just 5 months old, we've had him since he was 8 weeks old. He's a very happy puppy, no stress in his life, just wrestling with his older sisters, if you can consider that stress, lol.

    He does have this just on his ears and head. His ears have actually been improving greatly, but the top of his head has gotten worse, and now under his eyes. What I have noticed in the past few days, that rather than getting "eye bugers" common to most boxers, his eyes water alot, and that is where is skin is showing the same signs, where his eyes water.

    The betadine idea is interesting. That is the first thing the vet gave us, besides an antibiodic. When we first took him to the vet, he had some really raw oozy spots on the inside of his ear flaps. We used the betadine for 2 weeks, and it did heal the sores, but did not cure the problem.

    This whole ear/head incident came shortly after we had black flies that affected all 3 of our dogs, that lasted about a week, and the bites went away within days of the black flies leaving.

    We are treating him with the new cream, if you can call it a cream, miconazole 1% and Malaseb shampoo. He had his first bath yesterday, which also allowed me to check him over really well, while we waited the 10 minutes before rinsing, and I found no other signs of this anywhere else on him.

    Even though he hated his bath, I somehow think he felt better after it, he was extra happy the whole day. His 10 month old sister, his bestest buddy, actually growled and nipped at thim, the 3 year old just kind of stayed out of his way. He was definitely full of it yesterday.

    Another thing, this whole skin thing doesn't seem to bother him, he doesn't scratch at it, he doesn't shake his head at all either. His best buddy Sophie will hold him down and clean his ears and face for him, and she doesn't have any signs of this problem. Of course, we don't allow her to do that when he's got any type of cream on him.

    I'll keep everyone updated and thanks for all the info and ideas.
     
  10. Willowynd

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    Just growing and maturing and training is stressful, vaccinations are stressful- so is worming. Itchy ears- my first thought is allergy. If the ears are doing better but something still on his head- is it circular patches of hair loss? The moisture from his eyes could cause skin irritation and also provide a wonderful environment for fungus (ringworm) or bacteria or both. The vet gave you something that would help with ringworm (the creme) and the bacteria (the shampoo)...so you should see an improvement shortly. If not I would be looking at diet and possibly allergens.