Safe-Guard Equine Dewormer (paste) - dosage for dogs?

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  1. peekin

    peekin Well-Known Member

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    I can't figure out how much Safe-Guard Equine Dewormer paste to give to my dogs.

    Apparently dogs need a much higher dosage than horses, and I'm not at all sure that the dosage charts for the canine dewormer match with the equine dewormer.

    Anyone know?
     
  2. AngieM2

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    If you posted this question in the Pets Forum on down the site index, you may get an answer more quickly.

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    Never mind, I think I figured it out.

    In case anyone else runs into this conversion problem, the equine paste is a bit more than 1/2 as strong as the canine paste, meaning it's 1/2 as strong. If the canine paste requires 1 gram per 50 pounds of weight, then the equine paste will require twice that. or 2 grams per 50 pounds.

    Edited to add: Um, I figured that wrong because I followed the dosage charts for large cats. ?????.

    Ignore this advice. I've found the right dosage chart, but I wouldn't trust my math, if I were you.
     
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    I combed the pet forum and couldn't find the answer, although I did discover that, next time I do this, I should get the fenbendazole for goats, as the dosage is equivalent!
     
  5. Jackie

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    Please be careful giving horse dewormer to a dog. Ivermectin paste WILL kill your dog. A friend of mine spent over $1000 saving her dog after he licked up some a horse spit out.
     
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    Ivomec is safe for MOST dogs. It's given at 1/10th ML/10 lbs

    Collie breeds cannot tolerate it though


    The proper dosage for 10% Safeguard is 1 ML/5lbs
    It's most useful for tapeworms, while Ivomec will treat most roundworms and heartworms, as well as mange mites
     
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    Pretty sure your friend's dog must be some sort of a herding breed-they can be more sensitive than "normal" dogs. We have lots of threads regarding ivermectin and it's usage in dogs down in the Pet Forum.
     
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    This isn't Ivomec or Ivermectin. One of my dogs is a mixed breed (Labrador - Golden + ???), and I've never given him anything with Ivermectin, just to be safe.

    Safe-Guard is fenbendazole, same ingredients as Panacur. I've always used canine Panacur before, but I have a week off work and decided to spend it seeing if I could figure out how to do it with the equine paste. Which it's obviously going to take me the entire week to figure it out, given my math skills.

    Oh, and Ml won't do me any good - I need grams because I have the paste. Unless I can figure out the conversion for Ml to grams.

    Edited again to add: Okay, I figured out the conversion of ounces (.88 oz in this container) to milliliters. There are approximately 26 MLs in this container, and there are 25 grams, so the equivalence is about the same.

    I really hate math ....
     
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    As I understand it - the active ingredient in the paste is not mixed as consistently throughout the product as it would be in the liquid. This does not matter if you are dosing a horse, because you are giving a large volume, so you would get a better approximation of dosage. In giving a small amount, though, to a dog - you are much more liable to get a variable dose. While I understand that fenbendazole isn't as toxic as some wormers, if you are unfortunate enough to give a chunk with a LOT of active ingredient balled up in it, there could be consequences.

    I use the 10% cattle product (liquid) at the rate of 1cc per 5#

    Mary
     
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    Agreed. A friend spent a lot of time and money getting her aussie through an accidential ingestion.
     
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    Ya it was an Aussie. I didn't know there was a difference in breeds. Scary stuff. I think I will stick to dewormer meant for dogs.
     
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    Yes that is what I give just use a siring and squirt it in I get just plain Cattle Ivermectin not horse Ivermectin, and so does my friend that has all sorts of dogs uses the same 1/10th per 10 pounds since mine is 200 pounds plus i use 2 ML 1 ML per 100 pounds. of the liquid cattle Ivermectin.
    Because that is about what all that Heartgarde stuff IS for dogs is Ivermectin~!
     
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    This is not a recomendation for anything but just a statement. I work for my daughter in her feed store and we sell all of the horse wormers and dog wormers. I would say probably 45% of our customers use horse wormer for their dogs. People will ask me about it but I can't tell them it is ok to use it because of legalities. However, there is usually another customer more than happy to tell them all about it. A lot of our older customers use Ivermectin horse wormer but are emphatic about not using to much because they say it will kill the dog if you do.
     
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    My dad always gave his a dime's worth for small dogs and a nickle's worth for large dogs and never had a problem. This being said, a dime's worth is about the size of a dime and a nickle's worth is about the size of a nickle.
     
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    ivemectrin doesnt even kill tapeworms. why bother with that one? by the time you buy the good horse wormer that does kill tapeworm, you can just buy the dog pancur packets and skip the risks.
     
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    I use ivermectin cattle pour-on monthly, spotted between the shulders, on a beagle, a chow-shepard, a fullbloood Great Pyrenees, and a doberman-shepard. The main attraction of ivermectin is that it kills heartworms. I also like that it loosens ticks and helps with fleas. We never have a flea problem. The majority of vets agree: No flea hosts, no tapeworms. Now I can get that same protection out of Heartguard at a much higher price, or I can just spot it on out of the cattle dewormer bottle.

    We do not have a tapeworm problem, but if we ever did, it can easily be cured by many of the inexpensive OTC wormers found at Wally World or any pet store.
     
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    I use the safe guard for goats to worm my anatolians