Re-usable Canning Lids Experiment

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  1. Wendy

    Wendy Well-Known Member

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    I have milk coming out of my ears, so I decided to can some up to use for next year's bottle babies.

    I did a batch with regular throw away lids & had 1 not seal.

    I did a batch with 4-Ever Re-Cap wide mouth lids & had 1 not seal.

    I did 4 batches with Tattler regular mouth lids & had 1 not seal.

    So there it is, my experiment. Had a failure with each kind I used. I think I will like the re-usable lids. I figured I'd try them on the milk. If it fails I can feed it to the chickens without losing much. I really couldn't tell a difference between the brands. They both worked well. I have more to do tomorrow.
     
  2. Ohio dreamer

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    Thanks! I suspected that would be the results. Their products look like the exact same thing...so the fact that in this one small test the came up equal is not too surprising. But since I wasn't looking to buy any of the new ones (I have plenty of Tattlers right now) I really appreciate you doing this!!

    I hope we get a few more people to do a similar test and post their results.
     

  3. Kathy in MD

    Kathy in MD Well-Known Member Supporter

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    is this the first time for these re-usable lids or have they been used to can before?...
     
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    Wendy, I read to boil used regular lids in water with bakeing soda,it helps to "puff up" the sealant. Then reuse as a new one. I tryed it and it worked,tho I did not notice much puffing of the sealant on the lids(before reusing). I will do this again,but not on anything expensive to can such as chicken breast,just incase.So I have been keeping all my used lids for a few years now.
     
  5. Wendy

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    This is the first time they were used. I just got them a few months ago.
     
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    Has anyone else used 4ever recaps? I did a Google search, and it seems they must been fairly new; I didn't see many reviews. They stack, and the seal is silicone vs. rubber, and they are cheaper than Tattlers.
     
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    Wendy, I re-use a lot of lids and just heat them really good like you would new caps except for a longer time and rarely does one fail. In other words to soften up the rubber.
     
  8. Wendy

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    I just started using some yesterday & they work fine.
     
  9. Elizabeth

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    Something else to consider regarding "failed" lids-

    I have a lot of old canning jars, and have discovered that, even though they look good upon visual inspection, the jars themselves sometimes fail. I have discovered a few that have the slightest imperfection on the rim that prevents them from getting a good seal no matter what kind of lid is used.

    In the future, when I have "new" (to me) used jars I will test them by canning water in them with my reusable lids whenever I have a small batch of canning jars to run through the canner. I want to keep 50-100 jars of water in the pantry anyway, and once I know the jars are good I can simply open them and use the water for the dogs and cats, so no waste. Eventually I will have gone through all of the jars at least once and weeded out the bad ones.

    A long way of saying that it might not be the lids all of the time.
     
  10. Horseyrider

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    I like to run my finger around the rim of the jar as I place it in the canner to heat. I can find any irregularities pretty fast. The tiniest chip can mess with the seal, as can the odd blob of glass in the old ones.

    Gotta say though, I don't have three seal failures in a whole year, let alone a day. Was this just a bad day for you?
     
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    Wendy, I never thought of canning milk. I notice that you said it would be used for your animals, could it be good for humans, also? It might be a good way to take advantage of a milk sale - and get some put back for an emergency at the same time.
     
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    I cook with it --I found it turns a tannish so my big milk drinker turns up his nose at it --but it is fine --it needs to be shaken.
     
  13. Jan in CO

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    Two things--I also used tattlers today canning ham. One didn't seal. Used them yesterday canning ham and bean soup. One didn't seal. I've had about the same results with the new metal lids, also and I've been canning for centuries. The sealant is so thin on the new metal lids, I've not had good results in reusing them.

    While I also can milk for critters, It IS NOT USDA approved to can milk, so those of us who do so, do it at our own risk. I've had jars fail in the pantry storage and come unsealed but also have some that has been canned 4 years.

    I think canning water is a great idea to test jars and reusable lids!

    Jan
     
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    No. I have a lot of old jars, so some of it may be the jars. This is also the first time using the re-usable lids, so I am still getting the hang of them.
     
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    If I were desperate for milk I might drink it, but I mainly use it for the kids so I can have the fresh instead of them. :D It would probably be fine to use for cooking with.
     
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    Welp, I just ordered some 4ever lids too! I just got my tattlers and hadn't had a chance to use them but I am confident they will work as well for me as for others.

    I'm trying both kinds cause I like to diversify my preps.