Growing 2 Kinds of Artichokes in Zone 8b

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  1. ChristieAcres

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    By request, I am posting this thread to share growing them this year. I have direct seeded, indoors under lights, two kinds of Artichokes:

    Green Globe Artichoke
    Violetta Di Chioggia Artichoke

    There is a picture of my seedlings taken a few minutes ago.

    Next will be pics posted by request, showing both kinds grown before. I had started those earlier than i got these going, so not expecting the same first year results. It was a surprise to get multiple chokes the first year, but we did have an especially hot summer for this climate that year.
     
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    Here are the other pics:

    This was taken last Fall of me standing by my Artichoke, shocked at the size considering my expectations.

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    Below are pics taken this past week. I'll post more pics to update this year, should have composted them earlier. I mulched them with Comfrey and then aged composted manure.
     

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    I am trying again this year to grow them.... I did not get your results at all last year. Boy those are wonderful looking artichokes.... Thanks for the pm with the suggestions. I really appreciate you always taking the time to hand out info when others need it. Your pictures are inspiring and I will take your suggestions....hopefully I can report back with good results this time!
     
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    I hope you have a great year with them & please let me know!
     
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    Here are pics taken today. First, showing the Violetta, now with 4 chokes on her. The Green Globe now has 13 chokes (!). Also, some shots to see what the chokes look like now (Violetta bigger one will be allowed to bloom & will post that). Of the two, I prefer the taste of the Green Globe. Their growth has increased quite obviously since I mulched them both with aged composted manure & also watered them. Tomorrow, I am watering them with Comfrey Fertilizer (I made it).
     
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    For those considering growing these, they flourish in full sun exposure all day.

    Here are the seedlings:
     
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    Thanks for starting this thread! Artichokes are foreign to me (except for artichoke hearts in jars :teehee:) and seeing the plants is very cool!
     
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    Oh.. Lori! I'm so glad you started this thread. I got some seeds (Baker Creek Heirloom) and I'm a little nervous about the whole plant.. lol. I actually lived near Castorville, CA once upon a time for a few months. (It's the 'artichoke capital of the world') I saw acres of HUGE plants that looked like giant artichokes... so..
    I'm not sure the variety.. but..? anyway... On to a question:

    I read when getting the seeds (or somewhere) that in zone 8b where I am it's actually best to go ahead and start a plant late summer to let it get strong and overwinter in order to get 'fruit' the following spring/summer.

    Is that your experience as well? THANKS .. and anything ELSE you think of! ;)

    Growing artichoke is a whole new experience for me. Until your pics I haven't even seen a plant since ?? CA in 1979 lol :)
     
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    Good time to post, reminded me to add "water Artichoke plants" to my list today. Right now, watering my Pole Beans (with giant Rhubarb, etc...).

    Your welcome, had requests for the pics, so started a thread to share.

    Yes, originally purchased my seeds from Baker Creek, too! Do you have both kinds? I started mine early Spring initially, so this time I am starting them a few months later. It is likely starting them later would give them a good start, not fruiting first year. I didn't expect mine to overwinter, as they are tender perennials here. The ones in my raised beds didn't overwinter :shrug: I'd mulch them heavily to protect them over the Winter.

    Do you have a place to grow your Artichokes until late summer? Mine will be planted in ground, like the others (not inventing the wheel since they survived). Funny thing, our native soil is a bit acidic and Artichokes are supposed to prefer 6.5 to 7.5 Ph. Our soil is below 6.5, yet they are flourishing...?!
     
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    I watered both the Artichoke plants & will feed them Comfrey Fertilizer tomorrow. The young Artichokes will begin getting fed in another week (weekly feeding). I am experimenting with using Comfrey Fertilizer. My Heirloom Tomatoes loved it!
     
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    Here is the pic of my seedlings today:
     
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    Hmmm... Well.. I'm just debating on my whole gardening thing... Seeing a few weeds below your plants makes me feel better.. lol :):) Inspiring!!

    I've roto tilled ONCE, and the da*m grass is trying to grow back :( so I thought maybe I'd hit it again before 'fall'..but.. I don't really know when that is down here.. lol

    I'm doing the 'tiny home' thing, so don't have room to start seeds indoors.... Hmmm... What to do...??? lol :)

    Yours look great tho.
     
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    Thanks, wasn't concerned too much about grass in that area (that is outside of our main fenced garden area). They were planted there for an experiment to see what kind of results I'd get. Also, deer don't eat Artichokes :nanner:

    Now that I am planting more Artichoke plants in that area, I'll be removing the grass. Have you considered planting a "green manure" on your garden area, so you can till that in? Otherwise, I'd cover the area. Here, it is common to see garden areas covered (not really large ones, of course).

    The micro-climate suited the Artichokes in that area, so most will be planted nearby.

    What zone are you in?
     
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    Lori - do you have black-tail or mule deer (or both) in your area? Ours are all black-tails that I have seen, so far.

    If my cardoon continues to do well, I will plant some more along the driveway swale. The deer need something spikey to distract them from nibbling on the grapevines that grow outside the fence...
     
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    Mule Deer, as far as I know. I haven't seen any Black Tails locally, but they may be deeper in the forested areas.

    All the Artichoke seedlings were transplanted in pots where they will grow until large enough to plant in-ground.
     
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    My big Artichokes were mulched with Comfrey today and the young Artichokes were fed Comfrey Fertilizer.
     
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    8b... (previously 7..lol) Totally different soil.. all sandy now.

    I'm thinking of planting some seeds in SOMEthing... with the natural soil then transfer later. Experimenting a bit to see if they make it thru the heat if I really baby and water them.. just a couple of each thing.. lol
     
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    Yesterday, took a pic of my big Artichoke:

    Tonight, we are eating our first choke!
     
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