Okay~So I've been reading the different threads where someone needs to put their hands on a cow for one reason or another and since the cow is not "tame" they can't. I've got two tame cows I can put my hands on whenever I want but I recently purchased a heifer and borrowed a bull that while not "wild" are certainly not tame enough to stand still while I do vaccines or Doctoring as needed~ and I'm not really sure what my plan is for getting that bull out of my pasture when the time comes to return him! So I've been considering building a chute, catch, squeeze, head catch....well I'm not really sure what exactly I need but I've got a lot of ideas. I figure there are probably a lot of us trying to work our way around figuring out some sort of set up for small time use. I know we could spend a lot of money and purchase a proper one like the vet has...but I bet that cost a lot of money and all my money goes to the vet which is why he could afford to buy that nifty thing! So I've sort of drawn out my initial idea~ this is very rough and not even close to scale. When I got done with it I looked at it and realized there is not really that much room between the round pen and the driveway. But this will give you the general idea to help me work out this plan. The blue lines are what is already here~ the pink lines are what I"m considering doing. The round pen opens into my upper pasture. I'm thinking if I built off the outside of it I could call the animals I want into the round pen~ lure them in with feed. Close the round pen~ then crowd the animal into the chute area and close that gate behind them. Then.....something there in the middle....I need some help here....something that I can use to hold a cow still while I gave it a vaccine, played with it's udder, whatever it is I think I might want to do to that cow....then the Y area~ one direction leading to the driveway so I could back a trailer up there and push the cow on through onto the trailer or push her the other way back out into the pasture. What do you think? Anyone got some brilliant plans for the head catch, squeeze, catch....whatever it is I should put in the middle there? I'm sure it should be built on posts in concrete in the ground~ but use panels like the round pen are made of or build wood sides? How wide? Whats your ideas? What do you do to catch those less than friendly cattle?