Decrowing a roo

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  1. victory

    victory Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I really hope to get a serious answer, and perhaps find some one who has actually done it!...We tried a couple of years ago, to decrow my friends roo . She lives in the city, and her neighbors are awful...but she really wants a roo. I know they were born to crow, to manage the girls, etc and I personally love the sound of a crowing roo. I said I tried, we were harvesting roos that day, along with some rabbits, and I had seen a web site that showed how to. I am a vet tech, and have done/assisted with many surgeries, so decided why not give er a go??
    Well, I killed the poor beast, he was gonna die anyways, but I was really hoping to be successful.
    So...does anyone on here know how to do it? Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous, but I must ask...:teehee:

    Thanks much!
     
  2. WstTxLady

    WstTxLady Well-Known Member

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    Honestly they only way I know of/heard of is no more roo. Not sure if any way that would be humane enough to the poor guy to work.
     

  3. mariaricarto

    mariaricarto Well-Known Member

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    How about making the rooster a capon, does that stop crowing?
     
  4. victory

    victory Well-Known Member

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    so how in the sam blazes do ya make a roo a capon??
     
  5. mariaricarto

    mariaricarto Well-Known Member

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    Sam Blazes says to make an incision in the side and hook the testicles. There is probably a you tube of it.
     
  6. KSALguy

    KSALguy Lost in the Wiregrass Supporter

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    a capon is a castrated rooster, not good for anything other than to eat, he wont crow wont breed will even start looking like a hen if let to live, the only real safe and sure way to "decrow" a rooster is to put it in freezer camp, poultry dont handle anasthisia well, the surgery would involve removeing the voice box/vocal cords, and there is no room for error, i have heard of only a SMALL SMALL group who have tried it, and only an even SMALLER number successfully by takeing the bird to an avian vet and shelling out some big $$$, the thing is one of these "successful" surgerys wound up trying to crow again after a while, only one who checked in later so idk what happend to the rest,
     
  7. Kshobbit

    Kshobbit Well-Known Member

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    I had to go without a rooster while living in town and having my hens in an enclosure in the garage. They will manage just fine. Unless your friend plans on setting the eggs, a rooster is not needed. I personally like a crowing rooster and love the good roos that look out for and protect his hens.
    For some reason a crowing rooster drives some city folks off the deep end.
     
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  8. lambs.are.cute

    lambs.are.cute Well-Known Member

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    I know why. One crowing rooster is kind of cute. Two is slightly less cute. Three plus are just annoying.

    I have a neighbor who has about 10 roosters (she's too soft hearted to kill them) of various sizes and ages. Starting about 4 am they get into crowing contests. This continues until 7 am or until someone throws enough rocks at them. This isn't one or two crows it's an all out battle. They crow, scream, fight going right through other animal pens and generally causing chaos. By 5:30 we have hens squacking, roosters crowing and fighting, ducks and geese quacking, sheep baaing, horses neighing, cows mooing, dogs going ballistic, and sometimes a pig squealing. And it all starts with those stupid roosters. This happens even when the animals are out on summer pasture and don't need fed. The morning war continues summer and winter every day :grit:. Sadly only one has died so far - was batteling next to my horse and she scored a direct hit.
     
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  9. Cyngbaeld

    Cyngbaeld In Remembrance Supporter

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    Sounds like my place except for the fighting. I won't put up with that. I have lots more than 10 roosters though.
     
  10. mariaricarto

    mariaricarto Well-Known Member

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    If I'm asleep I don't hear the roosters. If I hear them, it's time to get up, many things to get done around the farm! Nature's alarm clock.
     
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  11. oregon woodsmok

    oregon woodsmok Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Debarking a dog is several hundred dollars and involves anesthetic. I imagine it would be the same for a rooster and that's a lot of money to keep a rooster that could still turn aggressive and have to be re-homed to freezer camp.
     
  12. trbizwiz

    trbizwiz Well-Known Member

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    borrow a roo from a friend when you need fertilized eggs. You should be able to get by for 2 weeks with out getting kicked out. If not take your hens to be bred.
     
  13. taterwayne

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    LOL I have been thinking this same thought,my wife is a nurse,so when she's off she likes peace and quiet.I am thinking about getting a shock collar for a small dog and see if I can break a roo with that.I don't think a de-barker would work,these work differently than a regular shock collar.
     
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    I heard somewhere (can't remember if it was here or on a chicken forum) that you can put a band around a roos neck just right so it can't stretch its neck out to crow. Pretty much stops crowing altogether without doing anything permanent or damaging to the bird. I'll see if I can find it.
     
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  15. victory

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    Now that would be awesome!
    I have seen a couple of things on the internet about decrowing, but not
    banding...
     
  16. TroutRiver

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    IMO any kind of surgery to remove vocal chords should not be done on ANY animal without anesthesia and/or pain killers, not even a rooster.

    The band idea is very interesting, I would be interested in hearing/learning more about that. Shock collar idea is also interesting. I'm not sure if chickens are smart enough for that... but worth a try.
     
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  17. bluedogsonly

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    Hey all,

    I'm a vet in eastern OK and actually have refined a surgery to accomplish just that. It really seems to work well and I have it much safer than most people think. It is done under anesthesia because I'm modifying the trachea (syrinx) in his chest. Here is a video of a little roo of mine pre and post surgery. [ame]http://youtu.be/mqpCy1pMPVo[/ame]

    If anybody might be interested or knows of someone fixing to lose their roo, give a holler. Thanks.

    Dr. James
     
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  18. mekasmom

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    Some people are nuts. They worry and stress about things that are just so small.

    I would not suggest anyone trying to "decrow" a rooster. God created them to crow. Trying to experiment on the sans anesthesia and medical license is cruel.
     
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    did you trim the comb too?
     
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  20. notbutanapron

    notbutanapron Ned Kelly's Trainer

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    Hilariously, when I lived in town and up came a rooster, I used to put it inside in a box until 9am when the sound police were out of jurisdiction and then let it out. Lasted about 8 months before I had to move. Mostly because I had 15 chickens on a small town block at this point. XD