Average Rate of Gain Question

Discussion in 'Goats' started by chicamarun, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. chicamarun

    chicamarun Well-Known Member

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    Hi everyone! We had our 1st birthing 2 days ago - 2 adorable kids.... nubian/boer cross 3rd generation so they look like little boers :clap:

    I'm debating to let the kids just show these 2 at the fair (looks like my other 2 preg does won't birth until late March unless they start showing more soon)

    Our 4-H fair is the last week in July and these guys would need to be 60lbs minimum to show and auction off. We were hoping that she would have given birth in January for those extra weeks for weight gain but it didn't happen - no biggie.

    My question is this because for some reason I am drawing a blank on an answer from anywhere...

    What is the average rate of gain for meat goats per month? They will be fed a locally mixed and grown grain (17.5% protein) +pasture/hay. I did not get a chance to weigh them when they were born - but they are about 8lbs a piece with the lil buckling maybe a pound more.

    Now - we purchased these does as dual-purpose - with the intention of letting the kids stay on her for 2 weeks - then milk 1x per day (morning) and let the kids have at her the rest of the day but seperate them at night. So I don't know if that will make a difference in the growth rate or not.

    I don't have a problem going and purchasing a couple of wethers for my kids for their 4-H projects if it will be an issue. They are both new to goats (and so am I) and so I don't want them to miss out on selling their animal at the auction as that is how they will pay for their animals & feed for next year - and pay me back for this year!

    Thanks!!
     
  2. Trey

    Trey Well-Known Member

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    So, are the mothers 50% and the father a FB boer? Usually they are 40-60lbs at weaning (3 months). So, if they are 75% boer your weight should not be a problem. I would lean towards leaving them with her 24/7 for a least a month though (if your kids are going to show them, they will be compeating with animals that were on their mom for 3 months, more then likely).
     

  3. chicamarun

    chicamarun Well-Known Member

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    These mothers are mixed - I would say 50% boer though and the father is a great looking 100% boer buck.
     
  4. Karenrbw

    Karenrbw Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You might average 1/2 pound per day gain. Our pb Boer billy gained about .75 pounds a day, but he was intact and had good bloodlines. We creep feed our babies in a pen that the adults can't get into. They have pellets available 24/7. We weighed last weekend and were averaging 30-35 pounds on most of the November babies. A couple topped out over 40 lbs (Goatzilla).
     
  5. chicamarun

    chicamarun Well-Known Member

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    I think I'll weigh them in a couple of weeks when we pull them off mom at night and take an average. One is a plump lil bugger ;) But great looking as far as I can tell right now (ok - I'm just a proud momma)

    Thanks for the information! It's SOOO appreciated! I think we'll probably go and get the 4 other ones as well as that will still give us a month to decide what to do and which ones to use. And having extra meat I don't think will hurt too badly if I do a good job marketing.
     
  6. Starsmom

    Starsmom Well-Known Member

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    I think if you are wanting to get the most weight on in the quickest period of time, leave them on the does as long as possible. One of my sons does refused to wean her first kid. by the time he was about 6 months old, he was as big as her. He finally had to take him away from her. He went on to be an enormous buck. At one year he was the size of a 2yr old easy. Although, since then, she has learned to wean them at 4 months, sometimes sooner. Leaving them on 24/7 until weaning will help with weight gain, just make sure the doe gets plenty of grain and hay to keep her fit.
     
  7. thatcompchick

    thatcompchick Well-Known Member

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    I'm with the others - let mom do the raising. Give HER the grain. We look at approx .4-.5 ADG on our fainters. I have dams that will still be trying to milk their doelings at 9 months ;-p

    I'll be working on EPD data, and such, so I'll probably be weaning at 90 day mark so I'll have a 'milk' gain and weaining info.

    if you just creep grain you'll have FAT not muscle tone...

    Andrea
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