WOW!My vote was stolen

nadja · #21 11/06/12, 05:40 PM

For the life of me I cannot understand why it is not a federal law to show photo I.D. You go to wallyworld to buy a pack of cig's and you will have to show id, and I am in my mid 60's !

Trisha in WA · #22 11/06/12, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AngieM2

Some states have been trying to make it so, and been accused of being racist.

How is requiring ID being racist?

bluemoonluck · #23 11/06/12, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trisha in WA

How is requiring ID being racist?

I believe the argument is that poor people are less likely to drive/have the $$ to pay for a state ID card, and since the poor are disproportionately minorities, by "forcing" people to show an ID to vote, it's racism.

At least that's the argument that gets brought up. It's total bull, because as a PP mentioned you need a photo ID to get cigs and alcohol and even to get a tattoo legally done. Basically its a way for crooked politicians to keep up crooked voting practices in their districts

Old Vet · #24 11/06/12, 07:49 PM

This year we were asked to show ID but it is not required.Every time we vote we have to sign our name the same way that it was done the previous year. If somebody wants to sign you name it must match the one from last year or when you registered. Where I voted I knew every body their but had to show ID to prove who I was.

texican · #25 11/06/12, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Rimmer

You mean you DON'T have to show ID? What's to stop someone from saying they're anyone if they don't have to show ID??

It is a common tradition to have dead people voting (JFK/LBJ won with the dead votes).

ACORN registered hundreds of thousands of imaginary people, in 2008, before their fraud was exposed.

Just a few days ago, Dem operatives were busing Somalians (refugees, no English, questionable citizenship....since they didn't 'know' how to vote, something that I understand immigrants learn, during citizenship class) to different early voting locations...

Tracy Rimmer · #26 11/06/12, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AngieM2

Some states have been trying to make it so, and been accused of being racist. In AL I have had to show my photo ID to vote for years.
there are other acceptable id's but I just use my driver's license.

How is it RACIST to ask for ID?

AverageJo · #27 11/06/12, 09:24 PM

Voted earlier today and didn't have to show my ID to anyone, but I'm also in a very small town where everyone knows us. It would have been difficult for anyone else to try to vote in our place.... unless it was a mail-in vote somehow. And, yes, it would tick me off if someone voted in my place. And NO, I do not have a problem with showing my ID. I write "See ID" on the back of all my credit cards and rarely do they ask!! Small town living...

tallpines · #28 11/06/12, 09:50 PM

No ID neeeded here.....didn't even take my purse with me.

I don't even need to tell anyone my name.

The workers greet us by name when we walk in the door.

Saffron · #29 11/06/12, 10:20 PM

Photo ID required here - AND they scan the coding on the back which brings up your image on the little computer with your information, then you are digitally "checked off" to prevent you from voting elsewhere.

I like my privacy, but I have to say I like it that it is close to impossible to vote again with that same name, photo, and information.

naturelover · #30 11/06/12, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Rimmer

How is it RACIST to ask for ID?

In another topic about this Oggie explained the history about it to me:

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/spe...-voter-id.html

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Originally Posted by Oggie

Identifying voters and their eligibility was abused in the past in some areas of the nation in a manner that kept select populations out of elections, so some folks are a bit sensitive about the whole issue.

That shouldn't prevent creating proper identification procedures, but there should be no surprise that the sensitivity exists.

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Originally Posted by Oggie

Here's a brief history of why some folks are sensitive about it:

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Voting in the US was initially limited to white male landholders, but this civil right was gradually extended to include non-landholders, persons of color, women, and 18-20- year-olds. Historically, however, each extension of voting rights was not always welcomed by local and state officials due to the legacy of slavery, ethnic codes, and other laws that limited the civil rights of women, poor whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, and new citizens.

Union Army occupation of the South following the Civil War instituted civil rights reform that allowed former slaves to vote, which made possible a large number of free black citizens to hold local, state, and federal office. However, predominantly Southern states were particularly creative in establishing “Jim Crow” laws to restrict the voting rights of former slaves. These laws focused on establishing polling place practices intended to prevent certain voters from participating in public elections. These measures included “Grandfather Clauses,” “Intelligence Tests,” and “Literacy Tests.” Many tests were impossible to answer, such as: “How many bubbles are in a bar of soap?”

To further remove minority and poor white voters from the voting process, local governments imposed “poll taxes,” which required voters to pay a fee to vote in public elections. These practices, joined with violence against those who challenged these polling practices, effectively removed from public office every black Congressional office holder elected during Reconstruction.

The civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s dismantled the “Jim Crow” laws. Congress passed the 24th Amendment to the US Constitution on August 27, 1962 and the Amendment was ratified by two-thirds of the nation’s state legislatures by September 23, 1962. The 24th Amendment prohibits a state or the federal government from requiring a “fee” from voters in order for them to cast a ballot in federal public elections. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 provided additional tools to protect voters from discrimination and violence, by establishing the Department of Justice as the federal agency with the power to sue states that restricted the voting rights of minorities.

From: EPIC - Voter Photo ID and Privacy

And, again, I don't think this history prohibits a system of voter identification, if done correctly. This just briefly recounts the history behind the concerns.

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thesedays · #31 11/07/12, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mom_of_Four

They don't ask for ID at our polls, so anyone could walk in and give my name. Can you complain and have the prior vote canceled? I don't know what the process is if someone steals your vote, but that's awful!

I had to confirm my DOB and address.

Spinner · #32 11/07/12, 03:43 AM

I'm in favor of voter id to confirm who is voting. That simple safety net would have kept my deceased mother from voting a year after her demise.

Sunbee · #33 11/07/12, 11:00 AM

I had to show ID--to my next door neighbor. It does seem a bit unnecessary when you're in a small rural precinct, where everyone knows everyone. I imagine it's different in a big city. I don't mind showing my license, but it's an eight year license with four years left to run, and Idaho doesn't update them when you move, so it's five addresses out of date!

lemonthyme7 · #34 11/07/12, 04:17 PM

Is your name unusual? In our township there is another gentleman with the same name as my husband (no relation). The only difference is his middle initial. More than once when we went to vote my husband had to show them which of the two he was. Is it possible that you were just mixed up with someone with the same name or even same last name in your township? Good for you for persisting and voting!