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08/29/11, 04:28 PM
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IID - Are you succeeding with the vanilla? If so, I'm so impressed, and where do you get them and how do you grow them?
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Vanilla is an Orchid, one can buy just the beans and make your own vanilla extract with beans and Vodka. Or buy a plant.
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08/29/11, 04:34 PM
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I agree with Elkhound - there are LOTS of things to eat with the makings of beans, rice etc. Homemade tortillas are the BEST but that is a reminder to store some lard. I have a Mexican store not too far away and that reminds me to go buy a couple cans next payday!!!  You can use cooking oil but I think the lard is more traditional and tastes better. 
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plus you can raise a hog and render ya own lard....jsut one mroe thing we can do to rid ourselves of outside enterferances.
rice with beans and mater,lettuce,onions and hot peppers on side...i am getting hungry now....  ...burp
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08/29/11, 05:43 PM
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I remember my grandma talking about packing rendered lard that had been salted into a crock and also making hamburger like patties and packing them into the lard also (they were fried first).
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08/29/11, 06:08 PM
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I pretty much eat the basics as it is. rice and beans, pasta (usually homemade), whatever from the garden and forageing. If I can catch some protien all the better.
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08/29/11, 06:29 PM
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Cooking skills are something you want to learn now, before you have to depend on them for survival. Finding a good recipe and turning out a decent loaf of bread usually takes some practice.
And to keep meals interesting, add tortillas and biscuits to your breadmaking repertoire.
Same with beans or rice. Learn how to cook/use them in a variety of ways because if that's all you've got, you're going to get bored real quick if they're cooked the same way every day.
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08/29/11, 06:32 PM
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IID - Are you succeeding with the vanilla? If so, I'm so impressed, and where do you get them and how do you grow them?
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I was thinking the same thing. I do grow orchids but vanilla orchids is a luxury I could never afford to grow. I would love to have a greenhouse and the resources required that could be devoted to growing vanilla orchids. But propogating them and providing them with the temperature controlled space for 130 foot long vines, and the years of waiting for the orchid plants to mature - well that's just beyond my means in this PNW climate.
Gracie - here is some information about how to grow them:
http://www.orchidflowerhq.com/Vanillaorchid.php
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08/29/11, 06:42 PM
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IID - Are you succeeding with the vanilla? If so, I'm so impressed, and where do you get them and how do you grow them?
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Yes and no. They aren't dead yet, but I'm not getting any beans either. Give me time and I'll get it.
Same with bananas. We have a few trees (they are actually a grass I think) in a friends greenhouse. While they seem to be growing just fine, we have yet to see any bananas.
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08/29/11, 06:52 PM
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Check this link for some Hard Times recipes...
Grandpappy's Recipes for Hard Times
Also I am buying cookbooks such as Peggy Layton's books... Someone here posted a while back about WWII cookbooks, have one or two from England that deal with shortages, rations and substitutions...
Oh and corn dodgers were good enough for the Duke, LOL Got a recipe for them here somewhere...
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08/29/11, 07:14 PM
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Orchids of all sorts thrive here, they love the heat and humidity and can be left outside surprisingly late in the year here. My front porch has many different kinds of orchids, and numerous epiphytes. I love hanging orchids and succulents. Never bought a vanilla orchid though, they're costly. I have gotten quite a few dragon fruit, though. They're surprisingly tasty and easy to grow as a weed.
When I was little, we ate the most basic of foods regularly. We would eat nothing but cornmeal for a while--cornmeal mush fried only in a bit of lard and with a tiny bit of sweetner on it, or cornbread made with no milk or eggs, etc. Then it would be nothing but oatmeal for a while--boiled oats, and oat crackers made with no milk or eggs. Then it would be beans for the longest time. We were very thin, I'm sure we were malnourished, but we survived.
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08/29/11, 07:58 PM
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We have been changing our eating habits since we retired to our farm and the money got tight. We eat a lot less meat for one thing and when we do eat meat it is just part of the meal rather than the main focus...much like most Asian cooking. We grow our own herbs and veggies, we have an orchard with pears, plumbs, apples, cherries and peaches, we have blue berries, raspberries and blackberries, we have three banana trees (dessert bananas), we have a few cows, a stocked pond and lots of wild game and we are making it our goal to buy as little from the grocery store as possible.
The problem we are having is balance, it seems we have an over abundant amount of fruits and veggies all ripening at the same time and we are learning different way to preserve them. Next on our agenda is to try and grow our own grains...any one do this on a small holding?
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08/29/11, 08:12 PM
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I eat very few grains at present as I'm on a low carb diet. I do have two of the "starter" LDS boxes in my stash along with a protein and grain box (TVP & wheat). The rest of my stash is what I regularly eat and like many here, I switch out the older for the newer. But if I had to, I could survive just fine on grains and legumes. Been there done that before in my starving student days. And since the transition would be rather gradual, my body would adjust. And in a long-term emergency situation I wouldn't be worried about gaining weight or not.
My favorite cookbook is "More with Less", a Mennonite publication--not sure it is still in print or not. The recipes are really fantastic, use a lot of grain and legumes as the base, and pretty cheap. If an emergency hits, that book is the only cookbook I will take with me.
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08/29/11, 09:35 PM
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I agree with Elkhound - there are LOTS of things to eat with the makings of beans, rice etc. Homemade tortillas are the BEST but that is a reminder to store some lard. I have a Mexican store not too far away and that reminds me to go buy a couple cans next payday!!!  You can use cooking oil but I think the lard is more traditional and tastes better. 
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Flat bread is simalar and takes less oil.
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08/29/11, 09:52 PM
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I'm going to make some hardtack and post y'all report and maybe pics.
I know it's going to be nasty, but I've been meaning to do it for years. This is a reminder to get it in my past experience. Yummy or not!
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08/29/11, 10:47 PM
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Our eating habits wouldn't change much. We grow most of our own food, including herbs. We get our milk and eggs from our chickens and goats. We buy what we can't grow in bulk.
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08/29/11, 11:34 PM
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This year I've been eating a lot of "weeds". We've incorporated lambsquarter, purslane, and even pigweed (redroot amaranth) into our diet. Not all of the Ernie Supper Club is thrilled with this, but like little troopers they've eaten what is served.
God is so pleased with my efforts at learning to eat weeds that He blessed me with an abundance of them in my garden this year. More than I could ever eat! Praise God and pass the weeds!
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08/30/11, 12:52 PM
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Well for me 'learning to eat different', is going to one of the fast food restaurants.
I swear that I get something to eat there, and it is soooo greasy and salty. I usually wind up getting a really, really un-happy meal with a side order of heart-burn. Not the most appealing or digestable food choice out there. It is second to only some of the VA Hospital industrial strength cuisine, that I have experienced over the last few years.
I guess it is a good thing that I stay close to home, and do my own cooking.
From what I buy for everyday use and I also keep in long term storage.
Several varieties of beans and rice that are flavored with bacon or even spam, then served with tortillas, salsa, sour cream, and cheese are enjoyed here on a frequent basis.
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08/30/11, 01:16 PM
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I gotta say I have come to envy you beans and rice people.  My grandpa raised cattle and had a butcher/ meat shop back in the day when you could have a small business. My dad was a meat cutter and farmer, So we ate meat!! beans and rice were those other things that mom served trying to teach us to eat everything LOL. never got the hang of them for the primary meal but I'm trying. and collecting your ways and wisdom
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