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10/17/10, 01:00 PM
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My roommate is a handyman and auto mechanic. He gets a lot of work but he constantly has problems with getting cheated. For me this seems like a better skill-set for TEOTWAWKI. In that event, he does the work and I shoot the ones that don't pay.
The skills that I have found the most useful during this recession are the skills that make me more self sufficient.
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10/17/10, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by soulsurvivor
Someone that could run/operate a central general store that operates via bartering.
Blacksmiths
Religious counselors
Gunsmiths
Leather tanners
Textile/weavers
Dentists
Herbalists/pain management
Candle makers
Metal workers/craftsmen
Butchers
Bakers
Barbers
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This is a good list.
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10/17/10, 06:24 PM
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I would say anything with your hands. A hands on service that can be exchanged for real goods-not just cash. This can be a carpenter, blacksmith, herbalist, plumber, mason, ferrier, anything in those lines.
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10/17/10, 10:24 PM
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I think it depends on what form the recession takes. In today's recession/depression, my job as an RN is secure. People get sick and someone has to take care of them.
However, if the situation was one of a total melt down of our economy/country, where there was no government to pay the bills of those who cannot pay their own (medicare, medicaid), I'd have a job, but who would pay my salary? If there was no fuel to get me to work, I'd have no work or no home, one or the other.
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10/18/10, 08:07 PM
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Buggy-whip makers?
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10/18/10, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Win07_351
Auto mechanics
Diesel Mechanics
Welders
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Around here there are way to many welder's and not enough jobs.
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10/19/10, 01:36 PM
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Working in an auto parts store, I would have to say that auto mechanics is NOT recession proof, because I am finding that folks are repairing only the things that MUST be done, and if they can put off a repair, so be it.
I have been told that when times are bad, sales of alcohol are up. DH is the shipping manager for Green Mountain Beverage (makes Woodchuck brand hard cider & others) and they are having a hard time keeping up.
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10/19/10, 02:27 PM
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Medical,lawyers,politicians, and undertakes.
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10/19/10, 06:04 PM
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I think you need to be prepared to barter, and you should also be prepared to work under the table/black market. We ARE headed for a one-world global currency, probably sooner rather than later, which is likely to be in the form of electronic credits (don't know if they'll start out with the Biblical mark in the hand or the forehead -- it may start out with debit cards or similar). I won't participate in that, TEOTWAWKI or not. I suspect that an underground black market economy will spring up, and possibly alternative currencies, too, although TPTB will crack down on all that as hard as they can when they find it.
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10/21/10, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by secretcreek
.....(Obviously something like an EMP would negate even the internet)....
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Actually, what we know as the internet today is an offshoot of ARPANET which was designed to keep the military/industrial complex alive and communicating in the event of nuclear attack and the accompanying EMP.
The net would remain due to redundant systems, but the local connections might be a bit iffy for the average consumer.
Some of the systems might still be accessible for those with working computers - it's not difficult to protect them.
I think there would be a huge demand for network and linemen to get industry working again in a recession. Those who have internet are likely to survive better than those without internet. You could at least use it to find where the jobs, bread lines and sales are at.
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10/21/10, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeOnTheFarm
Power plant maintenance.
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Right on!
Power plants and utility maintenance (water, sewage, trash collection) Always someone willing to PAY for those things!
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10/21/10, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by texican
I think some pre-requisites would clarify things...
If you own your own land, vehicle, and home, debt free, have a garden, and put by your own food, you're better off from the get-go, with whatever skills you have.........
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That sounds like Martha Stewart...the wealthy elite!
And if they were smart, they would bring their own private security into their enclave. A small security force akin to a private army to ensure the tended fields are not robbed and that property like tractors and trucks and property are secured. In return, they get fed, armed and clothed bettter than the masses outside the gate. Teamwork!
Hmmm. Security jobs to keep the wealthy at the top! That sounds good. They would have to pay well to ensure the security does not turn on them. Just a level or two above Hired Goons.
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10/21/10, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyngbaeld
Someone who can do a variety of odd jobs and will work hard, fast and do a good job, who comes to the job at the appointed hour unless something serious comes up and who then calls the client as early as he can to reschedule, will be in work in nearly any economy.
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But who would they be working for? Someone with enough surplus food? Money? etc. to pay for outside labor?
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10/21/10, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by heavyrebel
Well, if we are talking about a recession, and not a major melt down of everything, my business is pretty good. I'm also set up in a good area, and took cues from my Great Grandmother who owned a trout lodge in Colorado during the depression. She said "Rich men will always fish" . She was right. .....
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Fishing expends the most precious commodity - time. And the rich can afford to wait. Others have to spend their time toiling to survive.
Thoughout history, there has always been someone who has more than the other. Whether they have it through better resources available to them, better planning and negotiation or brute force (another form of negotiation?) is irrelevant.
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10/21/10, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by melissa78
....I have been told that when times are bad, sales of alcohol are up. DH is the shipping manager for Green Mountain Beverage (makes Woodchuck brand hard cider & others) and they are having a hard time keeping up.
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I LOVE Woodchuck Cider! If I drink enough, I forget that I have to go to work!
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10/21/10, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BillHoo
That sounds like Martha Stewart...the wealthy elite!
And if they were smart, they would bring their own private security into their enclave. A small security force akin to a private army to ensure the tended fields are not robbed and that property like tractors and trucks and property are secured. In return, they get fed, armed and clothed bettter than the masses outside the gate. Teamwork!
Hmmm. Security jobs to keep the wealthy at the top! That sounds good. They would have to pay well to ensure the security does not turn on them. Just a level or two above Hired Goons.
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Never been called the wealthy elite before... I reckon being a little bit ahead cash wise, with no debts, is better than the average bloke, that has debts and doesn't own their home, their land, or their vehicles. (Think: my sisters.... who started out equal with me, land wise, quickly sold theirs for baubles, that have long ago turned to dust, and they're back deep in debt. They've got to the point they own nothing, if they had to 'cash out'. The "life of the grasshopper" in action.)
However, the sis's and their clans would more'n likely bunk here, in a golden clusterdoodle. My private security!
[Will go to bed tonite with a smile on my face... I've been compared to Martha Stewart  ]
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10/22/10, 08:28 AM
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Never been called the wealthy elite before...
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Wealth is in the perspective of those who are poor and unprepared.
To some, the fact that you own a functioning car (and possibly nothing else) that you live out of, and are able to feed your family could lump you in with the wealthy set.
People with pitchforks and burning torches might be after you for just that reason.
Hopefully, you keep a gallon of emergency gas to get away!
But that would be an extreme.
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10/22/10, 09:17 PM
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Believe it or not, my 22 yr. old kid (no degree) got hired by Mirco-soft last year for 55,000 a year!!! These companies still have plenty of money and are hiring.
Of course, that kind of job doesn't interest me at all....
My husband has been out of work since July. He is a master carpenter. Builder of fine furniture, museum exhibits and boat interiors. Money is really drying up, it's finally reaching the rich (around here). He was very busy up until this summer. There are just too many people that call themselves "carpenters" when they loose their jobs.
He does plumbing and electric as well but he isn't liscensed so not sure what we are going to do yet.
Myself, thinking about hanging out my herbalist shingle again. I quit for a number of years as I was (and still am) so busy with the kids. Lots and lots of Amish around here to cater to though. and they can't hop on the internet and get answers to their questions...so locally it may be a good choice for me to go back too.
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10/23/10, 12:32 AM
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lorian - have your hubby look at www.tinyhouseblog.com for some ideas of a new housing movement that his skills could be used to make an income. Also, being herbalist seems to have a nitch these days also.
Fantastic for your 22 year old son. He must be testing something and his training was all those years stuck to a computer.
Good luck, Angie
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10/24/10, 10:01 PM
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Thanks Angie....your a smart girl! We were truly comtemplating "tiny houses" a while ago..definitely has some promise in this economy.
Not sure if we could afford the proper marketing of it though. We live in a very rural area and would have to find an outlet closer to some "green yuppies" I think....
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