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10/09/10, 10:06 PM
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Someone who can do a variety of odd jobs and will work hard, fast and do a good job, who comes to the job at the appointed hour unless something serious comes up and who then calls the client as early as he can to reschedule, will be in work in nearly any economy.
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10/09/10, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lemonthyme7
Hubby runs garbage truck - the kind that picks up the dumpsters at businesses (restaurants, stores, schools, etc.) and we are sure hoping that is recession proof! I think that garbage will always have to be picked up (at least with businesses that produce a lot. He makes a decent salary also.
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I agree. Would also add: well drilling and repair, septic system installation and pumping, and certain types of farming. (cash crops like corn, wheat, sugar beets, soybeans, etc.). Probably would also include farm machinery repair, and auto mechanic. Of course if you live in the city, you don't need wells and septic systems or farm machinery repair..... you have city water and sewer. I'm just saying that out here in my farming community the recession hasn't hit us much at all. We all live a pretty low-key simple life anyway and get paid fairly low wages compared to the rest of the nation, so we don't really require the same things most folks can't live without!
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10/09/10, 10:39 PM
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10/10/10, 12:55 AM
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I think some pre-requisites would clarify things...
If you own your own land, vehicle, and home, debt free, have a garden, and put by your own food, you're better off from the get-go, with whatever skills you have.
True, commercial plumbers can get in a bind, if they do tract housing, or new home construction... however, pretty much all homes need maintenance calls, sooner or later.
Before I started doing land research, I did handyman work... carpentry, plumbing, electrical, roofing, masonry, whatever you needed doing. Electrical and plumbing brought in twice as much per hour... there' too many folks that can swing a hammer (including a jillion illegals)... not as many can do the more dangerous electrical work.
I had a sweet list of clients... I'd take small jobs of an hour or so, knowing they'd call me on the bigger jobs. Lil ol ladies need their light bulbs changed... and pay gladly (they treasure their hip bones and don't want em all busted up).
My reckoning is, any job that can be exported overseas, will be. You can't export tradesmen type jobs.
I'm seriously looking into getting a portable bandsaw sawmill. Our local guy retired last year, and sold out. Nearest competition is nearly 30 miles away, and gets .35c/board foot, which is 350$/thousand. I've got three neighbors that use to get several thousand feet cut each month. Talked to two of them today at a funeral, and they have loads of logs sitting in piles, hoping they can lure someone out to cut em. I personally need about 5K feet of wood cut, and sawing my own timber will save me thousands.
If a persons laden with debt, and doesn't own their own homestead, free and clear, well it'd be best to do whatever it takes to not lose their job, whatever that might be. Having a wide and varied safety net of friends, family, and acquaintances goes a long long way.
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10/10/10, 10:51 AM
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Water treatment plant and/or sewage treatment plant operator.
I hope!
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10/11/10, 08:34 PM
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Here are just a few more that may be needed if we lost electricity due to EMP or CME.
wagon and buggy maker
harness maker
fire welder (blacksmith)
rope maker
making push carts
converting vehicles to run on wood gas
bicycle mechanic
machinist - foundry and castings
seamstress and/or tailor
treadle sewing machine repair (wo)man
saw sharpener and tooth setter
clothing pattern maker
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10/11/10, 08:36 PM
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Location: Lake Station
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Medical field is NOT recession proof....we've been haveing plenty of lay offs too.  When the paitients don't come in beause they can't afford to, thats bad. When the paitients that DO come in have no inssurance, can't pay the bill, etc...thats bad. Not to mention the new restrictions medicad has started implementing where they do not pay for a lot of things anymore...All levels of staff here have been laid off---from the top to the bottom.
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10/12/10, 11:29 AM
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Location: Pennsylvania
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*beautician/barber
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I'm not sure about that one. Almost 2 years ago when the economy took a down turn I started dyeing my own hair. I also bought a hair clipper and I've been cutting my 2 son's and my husband's hair. When I do need a haircut I go to Hair Cuttery and that is only maybe 3 times a year.
This area was one of the easiest on for us to cut out.
I've been thinking of buying a manual clipper for SHTF.
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10/12/10, 12:58 PM
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recestion proof - i am not sure this exists any more
as some one pointed out the medical feild is asking to do more with less , even had a nurse layoff here last year one hospital layed off a bunch of nurses , they were over quailfied as they can get lower paid cna's to do much of thier job now
welder - if there isn't production there is very little welding to do
barber - a 12-25 dollar investment in clippers and a buzz when it gets long and for the price of the hair cut at the barber you can do dozens i have had 2 profesional hair cuts in the last 2 years.
food production - you would sure think but farming is a dificult way to make a living in many places any way , and if you or your wife loose your non farm job you may be seriosly hurting on the farm.
Blacksmiths- very few people need a black smiths work for thier every day life , good skill under apreciated
Gunsmiths- modular or disposable guns make it very easy to work on them or get a new one , not to metion that guns can fire more rounds than you can afford to put thru them before wearing any parts out now. there is some work but not a lot and who cna afford to have you work on their gun durring a recetion.
Leather tanners- most of the tanning of leather has been moved to china it moves the bad chemicals and polution to the other side of the globe were they don't mind as much
Textile/weavers- again cheap textiles from over seas
Candle makers, maybe if there were no power or international shipping most are made over seas and brought in
Metal workers/craftsmen- no production of new means few to no jobs , most things can be stamped out disposable over seas and shipped here avoiding these skilled laborers
Butchers- meat comes in boxes now form large plants - there is soem call for local butchers at local meat proccessing plants but not a lot
Bakers- most bread even that baked in store now comes in frozen form a large scale facility 1 person can back all the bread for a large store each day because all they need do is unpack and back now.
auto mechanic - may be one of the more recetion resistant jobs as money gets tight more people fix than buy new
dentist - not a bad gig - people will always have teeth - as log as your buissines is built on solid dentistry not cosmetic dentistry or braces
religios - preists , nuns , monks - will always be in need it doesn't pay well but you eat and have a place to sleep - interesting trend i was just discusing this - giving is down and many are attending less , maybe a feeling of i can't afford to give so i shouldn't go or somthing.
drug dealer / herbalist / pain managment / pharmacist , this is not bad most people still need thier fix and will do what they can to get it.
garbage -collection does sound fairly recesion resestant
so does septic tank pumper , wastewater plant worker ,fireman, paramedic, cop and politician
i do think we are going to see some goverment worker layoffs soon , or major changes made to imporove efficency in many departments.
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10/12/10, 01:42 PM
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i think , people who do their jobs well make inporvments in proccess , treat customers well , arive on time , give that extra effort , will always be in need.
setting yourself ahead by doing good work will help you in most jobs ,some the beaurocracy runs to deep for that to affect much , but there is still hope.
today i was told a story about a parking lot atendant , he worked for a hopital for 5 years he swept , he counted spots , he checked the hole lot every hour to make sure every one had thier tags , when special events happened he would park extra cars for cash and give the cash to his boss he would make them 600 dollars a day extra , they would tell him good job and hand him 20 for all his extra effort , so what happened the managmnet at the building next door noticed offered him a 3 dollar an hour raise to work for them , now he does the same thing for them and is inside most of the day as thier lot is a 6 story parking garage.
that is great when he is young but what happens when he gets older and can't run around like that any more , we hope that they still apreciate him and that he still has value for them especialy in his honesty , but so many companies no longer view loyalty or honest as a reason to keep an older employee around.
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10/12/10, 01:47 PM
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Just wanted to say that RNs and LPNs are needed badly here in Oklahoma. Especially at the VA hospital here in my town.
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10/12/10, 02:39 PM
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Nothing is certain but death and taxes - people will always want to avoid both, so how about (1) pharmacists and (2) tax accountants?
Both skillsets offer geographic flexibility, decent working hours, etc.
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10/12/10, 07:23 PM
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While I work 1/2 time these days in a public library, I also caretake land, cut yards, park cars for football games and tutor kids, because I'm still paid for these activities. Am not still paid to teach at the university! ldc
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10/12/10, 09:10 PM
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Recession/depression! If times are bad, no money, no jobs, where ya gonna get the money to hire plumbers, electricians, bakers, etc. and all these other services. Seems to me, everybody will be hurtin.
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10/13/10, 01:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizard
Here are just a few more that may be needed if we lost electricity due to EMP or CME.
wagon and buggy maker
harness maker
fire welder (blacksmith)
rope maker
making push carts
converting vehicles to run on wood gas
bicycle mechanic
machinist - foundry and castings
seamstress and/or tailor
treadle sewing machine repair (wo)man
saw sharpener and tooth setter
clothing pattern maker
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I could make rope, sew, and draft patterns from scratch. I suppose I am set if the poop hits the fan.
I can tell you that no job is Depression proof. I mean first lets call it what it is. A standard definition of an economic depression is a significant decline in the gross domestic product (GDP). I think we have hit that marker for sure. Every job listed in this thread I know people in that field who have been laid off or seen a change in their job for the worse because of the Depression.
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10/15/10, 06:45 AM
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Military? I know they will be cutting numbers soon... but it's the ones on medical profiles and who've been in trouble that will be getting the boot. So, it seems if you work hard, stay healthy, and pass your PT tests, it's pretty safe.
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10/15/10, 07:48 AM
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My granddad was a carpenter and worked all through the depression. I think any trades that require handwork/manual labor will be, not recession or depression proof, but always available to some degree.
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10/15/10, 08:09 AM
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Well, if we are talking about a recession, and not a major melt down of everything, my business is pretty good. I'm also set up in a good area, and took cues from my Great Grandmother who owned a trout lodge in Colorado during the depression. She said "Rich men will always fish" . She was right.
I am in the dog service business. Training, Walking, transportation, grooming, a boutique, food and the like. We moved to The Palm Beach area where there is money even in bad times.
Now, my background is in Auto Mechanics, owend a shop in the past, ASE cetified, and have an EMP proof old car. So if the SHTF in a serious manner, I have that, a ton of other skill sets my parents taught me, and many self taught skills. I hope it never comes to needing them all to survive, but I have at some point used them all to survive.
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10/16/10, 05:27 AM
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mail carrier
my dad told me that during the depression the mail carriers got more gas allotments than they needed........i figure federal prison employees,pretty secure also......my grandfather raised 10 kids on a farm,working horses,raising hogs,chickens,milk cows and huge gardens....of course he had no trash bill,phone bill,internet,insurance,electric,gas.
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10/16/10, 07:33 AM
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TRUCK DRIVER/OwnerOp......you would have very little without people delievering your products....If we stopped rolling-it would'nt be pretty.....I've run everything from fruit/veggies to high security loads.HS are my favorite,money wise, but the rules and regs are a pain sometimes....
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