Gulf of Mexico Methane bubble
 

has anyone heard anything on this and also the plans for evacuations, that this bubble can cause a tunsanmi. there is a lot of stuff stirring out there (internet) right now how do you sort it all out to be prepared? thanks JIL

Most of this stuff is coming from the "mad scientist" types.
It gets them some publicity.
Other than that it has no redeeming social value

The only mexican methane bubble i'm aware of is in Jesus Rodriquez down at the mexican resturant. When he goes off...We evacuate!:run::smiley-laughing013:

If the ocean floor collaspes, there will also be a tsunami. N.O. could get hit with something worse than katrina eventually.

They have had a higher concentration of methane in the oil from that well than other oil wells and scientists think that there could be a large 'lake' of methane under the seabed. This is under a great deal of pressure and if they are correct about the size of the deposit, there could be a natural disaster waiting to happen (if the bubble bursts, floor collapses, tsunami would be huge).

I don't think many scientists would want to go around warning about things like this without some reason. It would not be good for their reputation. So to completely discount the possibility could be dangerous. Hopefully they are incorrect, but I seriously doubt that they would do this for publicity.

I don't think it is the scientists who are blowing things out of proportion. I do think there are a lot of adrenaline junkies having fun with disaster scenarios.

Scaring people half to death is not helpful and rarely encourages readiness. Spreading unconfirmed rumors only leads to panic.

:eek: panic?? panic?? count me in!!! :run:

No, seriously...what do you want to bet this "theory" was leaked to help the gooberment remove large portions of the local population in land from this unfolding disaster. It is like cordoning off a crime scene..wait! Some folks already consider it a crime scene.

Could be a grain of truth tho. Multiple reports are out there that this oil deposit is 50% methane(re methane "ice" ruining several attempts at control and reports that 50% volitile gases evaporating). A true SHTF perhaps TEOTWAWKI(over time) if it were to happen...once started how could the process be stopped??? How can they/we verify the existance of this "lake" of methane? If it is still in the rock, as the oil is,( not in a large open cavity like a cavern) can it explode all at once or would it burn like a lit stove burner?? Does it need oxygen to explode or even burn??

If i lived on the Gulf Coast right now,it would take a good reason to keep me there, i'd rather panic and be gone than be there waiting for what might happen. there is no way to prepare for or be ready for a 2-600 ft high wave. those Gulf towns and cities will be up where nashville is now if the ocean floor collaspes.

They are tredding in uncharted waters . . .in that they have encountered >extremely< high pressure...............

Speculation is running rampant as to what will be.

Lots of keyboard cowboys are Not helping things a bit.

Junk science. Worst case scenario the workers directly above would be in a deadly bubble bath.

Since the methane happens to exist as a solid at that depth, it isn't too likely to explode.

More dangerous than an explosion could be a huge sudden release of methane. In 1986 a huge cloud of carbon monoxide was released by nature from a lake in Africa. It wiped out several villages of people and a lot of livestock in the area.
Here's one link to that story:http://volcanoes.suite101.com/articl...n_of_lake_nyos

Yes

It's no higher than many other wells.
Until the rig exploded, they had controlled that same pressure while drilling

Oh NO! Wring your hands, wet your bed, panic panic panic. It's another disaster de jour!! What will it be tomorrow? Hurricanes in Idaho? Tornadoes on the arctic tundra? Skyscrapers melting in the heat of a global warming summer? Oh worry worry worry...

i was going to bring this up, so thanks for the link. just think "giant can of soda". if there is enough precipitate in one area, the right combination of agitation could start a chain reaction that would result in all of the methane being released at once. once it starts, the density of the water would lessen and allow the precipitate to expand and turn into a gas.

others speculate that the real danger may be huge dead zones as methane replaces the dissolved oxygen in the water. one scientist i saw discussing it said that the danger is being over-rated because of the huge amount of water in the gulf at that depth.

I agree that a release is more likely than an undersea explosion. Much more likely. Don't think a dead zone is going to be any worse than the red tide we've been dealing with for many yrs.

Yes, the doomer porn is strong with this one.

As with most things, the real truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

As far as preparing, I would think those who live along the coast and a bit inland would already be aware of the threat of a tsunami, and those with inclination would already be prepared for the situation to the extent possible. For the vast majority of the population I don't know that it makes a difference how the tsunami is triggered, be it a methane eruption, earthquake etc.

What do you think a gas well is? That can be pure methane and high GOR wells are not that unusual. Further, people writing this garbage make it very clear that they have zero understanding of geology. Most of the gas from this well is either coming up the controlled flow stream and being burned which is typical oil field practice or it's dispersing into the water and then into the air. If there was a real heavy concentration of methane in the water those boats over the well would be sinking. That has happened in the oil industry and the fact that it's not happening here should tell you something.

It would be more accurate to say that it may exist as a solid methane hydrate if the conditions are just right. The stuff coming out of this well is obviously not forming hydrates under current conditions.

Did you read the reason why the dome containment didn't work? It was because it filled up with methane hydrates.

A threat of a huge methane bubble that might burst, well there needs to be more than a report from some crackpot for me to take something like that serious. I don't live right on the water, just a few miles inland, but this scaremongering tactic does not have me packing my bags. I have not heard of anyone who is moving/evacuating from this area because of the spill. Now it may come to some leaving to find work if they are unemployed for an extended period or become unemployed because of decrease in tourism that is a real problem now.

But Mississippi is not even had oil on beaches at all... yet, just a little on the barrier islands. We are back up in kind of a pocket and the current is taking it all towards Florida. But of course no tourist want to come here, thinking there might be oil in the water. But I know it will get here it's just a matter of time.

But for us and most people I think there is no consideration of leaving the coast now or ever. Not saying that it can't possibly ever come to that, but I can't imagine it. Even if it gets as bad here (Mississippi) as it is in Louisiana, it would not effect us directly, as our family does not work in the seafood industry, we are rarely out on the beaches or do more than just driving by the coastal waters. The oil smell is only right in the area of the oil in the water or on the beach. So anyway I just can't see this developing into something that would cause evacuations. All of these worst case scenario are just scaremongering and I'm not buying into it.

Kathy

[QUOTE=lisa's garden;4492104]They have had a higher concentration of methane in the oil from that well than other oil wells and scientists think that there could be a large 'lake' of methane under the seabed. This is under a great deal of pressure and if they are correct about the size of the deposit, there could be a natural disaster waiting to happen (if the bubble bursts, floor collapses, tsunami would be huge).

I don't think many scientists would want to go around warning about things like this without some reason. It would not be good for their reputation. So to completely discount the possibility could be dangerous. Hopefully they are incorrect, but I seriously doubt that they would do this for publicity.[/QUOTE]

Of course they would. How else do you think they get funding? May I refer you to the global warming/cooling hype? Scientists on both sides, and their benefactors (Gore, etc) are making billions off a natural cycle of events.

For many of the the "reason" is they often have written books on their wild theories, and getting face time on the air is free advertising

I foresee the ocean floor weakening and allowing lava to flow into the methane. This in turn will turn the ocean into a pressure cooker and precook all the ocean fish. Sushi lovers beware -there will be no more sushi.