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Old 07/30/07, 12:56 PM
 
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Cool Our List: Top 100 Items to Disappear 1st During a National Emergency

I was reading with interest the thread on Countryside Families titled “Top 100 Things to Disappear in A National Emergency” and viewed the link provided.
http://baconreport.blogspot.com/2007...st-during.html

I disagreed with many things on the list, although did agree with some.
What do yall think?

How about we make our own list? Are you working to subsidize your needs in case a National Emergency were to occur (I am thinking as pertains to this list)? I think it would be interesting to see what we think as I know many here are seasoned preppies (and of course fresh views from new people are always great!).
Might be nice to have a final list we could print out (One could take from the list what felt right for each person and create their own personal list)? What do yall think?


If I may begin the list… (of course, this is only my opinion)

1. Water (I think the safe water we take for granted from our faucets would be in danger of no longer being safe or even being available. And of course, during an emergency, water is one of the first things to disappear on a grocery shelf. Right now I store water all the time. I am working toward a long term solution, but do not have the means to do it yet)

2. Batteries (Every time a hurricane or emergency weather situation hits, batteries fly off the shelves at an alarming rate. I stock up on batteries.)

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Old 07/30/07, 02:07 PM
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3. food that needs no cooking, such as canned soup, chilli, crackers, and fruit.
4. coffee, tea

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Old 07/30/07, 02:08 PM
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3. paper towels...yes I use cloth napkins, and wash rags now but with limited water to wash these, I would want the paper towels

4. toilet paper

5. cash..been threw several hurricains and Ice storms, nothing beats cash

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How about hand knitting materials for hats and gloves, scarves for those of us who can knit?

Also, books to read in any 'downtime'.

snowshoes and skis...

a 'dock box' thingy for the outside (mine would be on my back porch) like they use at marinas for the storage of things that need to be cold or frozen if you live in that climate....like I do.

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Old 07/30/07, 03:31 PM
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6. Over the counter medications
7. Duct Tape
8. Dust Masks

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Old 07/30/07, 03:42 PM
 
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Ok, our list so far:

Top 100 Items to Disappear 1st During a National Emergency

1. Water
2. Batteries
3. Foods that need no cooking: canned soup, chili, crackers and fruit
4. Coffee and tea
5. Paper towels
6. Toilet Paper
7. Cash
8. Knitting yarn, knitted hats and gloves
9. Books for entertainment
10. a 'dock box' thingy for the outside (LOL Celticheart! I thought I was the only one who used that word); use at marinas for the storage of things that need to be cold or frozen
11. Snowshoes and Skis
12. Over-the-counter medicines
13. Duct Tape
14. Dust Masks

OK, do you agree so far with the list? This is the TOP 100 Items to Disappear 1st During a National Emergency.
If we get a good list, might actually be a help to us. (We can post it on the fridge, drive the non-preppers nuts! lol)

I have to think that perhaps knitting yarn, books. A dock box, snowshoes and skis might not make the list if I were creating my own. They are all wonderful items to have and worth noting for sure, but the 1st things to disappear?
I’m not sure about that?
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I don’t have a baby in the house, but I would bet that baby supplies would disappear quickly. Things like diapers and formula. Breast feeding would be a big help in this area as long as the mother had a nutritious diet.

15. Baby formula, baby food and diapers

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Fresh foods like milk, juice, bread and anything that is frozen or needs refrigeration.

Plywood, tarps, plastic sheeting.

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Old 07/30/07, 04:17 PM
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I had read somewhere that over in kosovothat soaps were in short supply and missed dearly.

I would say some sort of entertainment ie cards a board game etc

A bible

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35. Tuna Fish (in oil)?

35. Tuna Fish (in oil)?
Now I like the taste /flavor of tuna in oil, but is it better in oil then water.
Better for you or lasts longer?

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Salt and spices. tobacco (we don't use). coffee (we use!) and chocolate come to mind.

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Liquor, alcohol, beer, wine...
toilet paper
paper towels
paper plates

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matches
lamp oil
coleman camp fuel
magnifying glass (fire starter)

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Old 07/30/07, 08:18 PM
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I am confused. Yes, I do confuse easily, HOWEVER, there is a difference between items that disappear in an emergency & those you might need in an emergency and find hard to get. For example, here we get blizzards, we have had them bad enough that towns are stranded for weeks. The first items to disappear were bread, milk, pop & beer. After that the grocery shelves were picked clean. So is this a list of what disappears you might need or what disappears first that people may or may not REALLY need (and yes, I know a few of you feel beer is an essential.)

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fuel
flashlights
Maxi pads/tampoons

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Old 07/30/07, 09:06 PM
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Having been through several blizzards the following items completely disappeared from stores within hours (local radio and TV stations warned people to stock up on essentials). One time, we were forced to make a quick trip to town 12 miles away. When we arrived all of these items were already gone:

Kerosene heaters
Generators
Water
Batteries
Milk
Bread
Diapers
Flashlights
Gas cans
Antifreeze
Car battery chargers
Toilet paper

We had come to town for wood matches, plastic sheeting and duct tape. We made the rounds to K-mart, Walmart, and two hardware stores before finding our three items.

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Old 07/30/07, 10:40 PM
 
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I have more...

Clothespins and an old fashioned percolator for making coffee over a campfire or on a gas stove. You can boil it in a pinch but a percolator would sure be nice. I collect the old granite ones but only three or four have the innards and my son uses one every time he goes camping. I bought one of the new aluminum ones pre Y2K. Don't know what I was thinking .

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Some good thoughts here. I forgot bread. I remember there was a big ice storm coming our way (year before last) and my husband and I were out the night before and stopped at the grocery store for something (can’t think of what) and all the essentials like bread, milk and water were already gone.
Those of us who make bread won’t have a problem with that, but those that don’t would miss it badly.

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I am confused. Yes, I do confuse easily, HOWEVER, there is a difference between items that disappear in an emergency & those you might need in an emergency and find hard to get.
lol, Cheryl in SD. I get confused easily too
I guess what I was hoping to accomplish was to get a list of the 100 things that would disappear in a real National emergency that folks would really miss or need. Might help with our prepping if we had 100 essentials covered. (course each family is different, but folks can pick and choose from the list what fits their life the most)

I also thought it might be a good way for those new to emergency preparedness to have something to look at like a simple list.

For example, if we all agree and know that bread will disappear and more than likely, in a National emergency, be hard to come by, how would they prepare for that shortage? (this gets folks to thinking about alternate cooking, storing wheat, flour and so forth)
Make sense?

Some things may not be as obvious as maybe we don’t use them all the time. Like Tinda mentioned Coleman fuel. Sounds like a good thing to list to me as in a real emergency, folks are gonna run out and buy fuel like propane or Coleman stove fuel or whatever and then it will be gone. Might be a long time before we saw it on the shelves again. Something like that is much more important in a real emergency (at least I think so) than something like chewing gum, for example. In a real emergency, I think, fuel would be a real important item on the list.
Chewing gun might be missed, but it wouldn’t be important in a national emergency if it weren’t around.

I think, initially, what made me what to post this thread was when I looked at that other list, http://baconreport.blogspot.com/200...rst-during.html
I felt we could come up with even a better one. It’s got some great things listed, but I didn’t really agree with all of it.
For example, if a national emergency happened, do you think Journals, Diaries and Scrapbooks would be one of the first 100 things to disappear?
I think if folks wanted to keep a journal of the event, heck, they would probably just use some notebook paper or a spiral notebook they had lying around.
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I hope yall will make up your own list and post it here! Would be wonderful to have lists to compare and be able to make up the best list to suit our individual families and situations.

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Old 07/31/07, 11:45 AM
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People think in terms of "what do I need right now" not in terms of "what will I need if this lasts a long time" so I think the items to vanish first will be quick consumables, not items for long term use.

foods like deli dinners, bread, lunch meats
canned ready to eat things like soups, etc.
candles
staples like sugar, flour, salt, etc.
ice and a ice chest to keep the lunch meat in
blankets
warm clothing if it's cold weather
entertainment items like cards, games, dice, etc.
porti-potty

A few years ago we had a ice storm that knocked the electric wires down. It took 2 weeks for them to get the lines repaired out here. The first things that disappeared from the shelves were bottled water, batteries, lamp oil, lamps, and any ready to eat foods. DH brought me batteries and lamp oil from out of state or I would not have had enough to last the full outage. Generators went pretty fast too. But the generators didn't do much good for people who didn't have stored gas. Many siphoned gas from their cars to run the gens. When they ran out, they started sneaking around siphoning gas from neighbors cars, tractors, lawnmowers, anything they could find. It didn't take long for people to start stealing.

At least one store opened to let people buy necessities. They used a hand calculator and a flashlight to walk people thru the dark store and limited them to necessities only.

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Originally Posted by Cheryl in SD
I am confused. Yes, I do confuse easily, HOWEVER, there is a difference between items that disappear in an emergency & those you might need in an emergency and find hard to get. For example, here we get blizzards, we have had them bad enough that towns are stranded for weeks. The first items to disappear were bread, milk, pop & beer. After that the grocery shelves were picked clean. So is this a list of what disappears you might need or what disappears first that people may or may not REALLY need (and yes, I know a few of you feel beer is an essential.)

Same situation in New Orleans/Katrina; food items were picked clean.

It's been my observation that some people would rather not talk about the When Badstuff Hits the Fan - they usually say "I don't want to talk about it."

Others, like standing on a track with a rapidly approaching train, will just stand there and mumble "You know, when the train hits, it's really gonna hit", but they don't want to do anything about it.

Waiting to the last minute to buy things is never a wise option, and history shows that desperate people (particularly with starving kids) usually make crazy decisions.


Word has it that there were some in New Orleans who were actually waiting for the govn't to show up to give them a bottle of water when it 'hit'.
Wonder what happened to them.
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Same situation in New Orleans/Katrina; food items were picked clean.

It's been my observation that some people would rather not talk about the When Badstuff Hits the Fan - they usually say "I don't want to talk about it."

Others, like standing on a track with a rapidly approaching train, will just stand there and mumble "You know, when the train hits, it's really gonna hit", but they don't want to do anything about it.

Waiting to the last minute to buy things is never a wise option, and history shows that desperate people (particularly with starving kids) usually make crazy decisions.


Word has it that there were some in New Orleans who were actually waiting for the govn't to show up to give them a bottle of water when it 'hit'.
Wonder what happened to them.
They went to the Superdome or camped on the Interstate and waited(and waited) for the government to come and help them.
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In the "before the storm hectic" they (tv) show folks slapping OSB over windows etc.
So after the storm what do they do with it . . .?? . . throw it out . . . ??

And then the Home Despot shelves are empty of . . .OSB.

Do you have the materials to secure some windows . . .????


**I just got 50 sheets of it today--for a building project........

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all junk food, milk, eggs, bread, lunchmeat, canned instant meals, fresh meat (sheeple are idiots) ice, icechests, camping equipment. chips, matches, lighters, lighter fluid and charcoal. the colman stoves, flashlights w, batteries, canned meats, diapers and wipes, generators and ofcourse all the drinkable things. last ice storm we had those were the things that went the fastest. now what im wondering is, how did they keep all that perishable food from ruining with no electric. they had to buy a generator. makes no since.

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How about things like disinfecting wipes, or baby wipes? Works well when trying to conserve water for drinking and cooking.

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Sonshine, I was wondering if anyone thought of that or wet naps types of cleaners.

Personal hygene items of all types, fuels of all types, batteries radios and flashlights, camping gear, plus tobacco and alcohol (essential items, eh?). First to go in times or emergency after food items... People tend to think Tactical (short term) instead of Strategic (long term) when preparing as Spinner posted.

Don't forget firearms and ammunition!! I well remember as an impressionable youngster, the panic of the 1967 and 1968 riots and everyone buying all of the firearms and ammunition to keep looters at bay. Look at the looting after the Hurricanes, and not just for survival items either.

That is why I have prepared already as best as I can, and have a 2600 gallon holding tank for the well water here.

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mountairy you live in the same area I do. When there is any kind of threat the first things to go are milk,bread,eggs,and water.Trying to go to the grocery store is like wal-mart at christmas.

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In my experience - from working at WalMart on 9-11 - gas cans were the first to sell out.

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How about things like disinfecting wipes, or baby wipes? Works well when trying to conserve water for drinking and cooking.
You can pick up a case of Member's Mark baby wipes for about $13.00 or so, at Sam's. I usually have at least 2 cases on hand, but I also have 3 kids under 5 years old. But, seriously, they work wonderfully and DH and I have agreed that we would keep a case on hand, even after the kids get older.
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