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01/10/12, 08:40 AM
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Indiana passing online sales tax
I've been pacing back and forth for a couple of hours. I stay away from politics because I'm not a smart person, but Indiana is passing an online sales tax brought about by Simon Brothers(large mall owners) law suit. Republicans passing it. It will lead to law to check hard drives for tax evaders. This is how they stop the internet.
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01/10/12, 09:39 AM
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Some states have already tried this - namely California. I had to pay sales tax on items I ordered on line because the store was in Alabama.
I don't think it will stop the internet and I doubt they will check hard drives for tax evaders as the taxes will be collected at the point of sale. If you don't want to pay the tax, don't order from companies who collect it online. Amazon comes to mind, I never pay sales tax for orders from Amazon.
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01/10/12, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by yikes
I've been pacing back and forth for a couple of hours. I stay away from politics because I'm not a smart person, but Indiana is passing an online sales tax brought about by Simon Brothers(large mall owners) law suit. Republicans passing it. It will lead to law to check hard drives for tax evaders. This is how they stop the internet.
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It won't stop the internet, and it won' stop internet purchases. The accounting is a simple change to the programing in the accouning software used by the internet retailers.
Regardless of what Simon Brothers say this bill won't push people back to brick and mortar stores. People purchase online for reasons other than avoiding sales tax, I'd venture that the vast majority of online purchases are made for a myriad of reasons other than sales tax.
Jim
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01/10/12, 10:13 AM
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So that is what Kenley was pushing for as he was trying to rid the state of inheritance tax? Just from online retailers or was it from all online sales?
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01/10/12, 10:16 AM
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I'm of two minds about this as I like not paying the sales tax, but at the same time know that states need the sales tax to keep solvent. I agree with Lazy that it won't prevent on-line sales. It might dampen them a bit, but I don't think it really will affect them too badly. And it certainly won't chase folks back to brick and mortar stores as many of those have a strong on-line presence. I buy on-line due to the convenience and the fact I can get many items on-line that are not carried in the stores.
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01/10/12, 10:27 AM
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Wasn't it Indiana who passed a law making it so that Amazon would have to collect sales tax for their state even though they do not have a physical presence there by arguing that having affiliates in the state counted as the same thing? Whichever state it was, Amazon responded by dropping all of their affiliates in the state. I imagine they might refuse to ship to Indiana now.
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01/10/12, 10:48 AM
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Indiana promised Amazon that it would not go after sales tax to entice Amazon to build warehouses here (they have three and are looking for the fourth). It kinda shows how good promises are held here.
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01/10/12, 02:45 PM
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I wish them well (Indiana), in their looting operation. Should increase sales a lot in other states, yard sales, flea markets and other untaxed operations. 
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01/10/12, 03:58 PM
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As tax revenues dry up, collectors will get more involved in stopping leaks and in finding new ways to make up the difference. We should all be ready for it. Once new taxes are in place, if the economy picks up, they won't disappear.
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01/10/12, 08:06 PM
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NY collects this as part of your personal income tax. You can either pay a designated amount, based on your income, or keep your receipts for out of state purchases and pay appropriate tax on the total. You are not allowed to skip this line on the tax form.
We pay the amount based on your income; seems like its about $33 a year.
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01/10/12, 08:29 PM
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Here in WA state, you pay WA state tax regardless of where the originating store is located.
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01/11/12, 11:12 AM
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Is this for all internet companies located anywhere shipping to Indiana or just companies located in Indiana shipping to Indiana...because as an Indiana business owner, I've had to collect sales tax on internet orders shipping to my own State since the beginning...
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01/11/12, 12:30 PM
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My understanding is that Amazon has agreed to start collecting California sales tax towards the end of this year and in Indiana, in 2014.
It does make a difference as paying sales tax and shipping can very well make a product on the internet less attractive.
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01/11/12, 04:30 PM
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My understanding is that Amazon has agreed to start collecting California sales tax towards the end of this year and in Indiana, in 2014.
It does make a difference as paying sales tax and shipping can very well make a product on the internet less attractive.
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Yup typically I weigh the extra markup + tax vs lower price + shipping online
This will hurt internet businesses because if the price differential is not great enough then why buy on-line other than convenience? Personally even now I try to buy fragile things locally because of the convenience and cost savings of the return should it be necessary.
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01/11/12, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SCRancher
Yup typically I weigh the extra markup + tax vs lower price + shipping online
This will hurt internet businesses because if the price differential is not great enough then why buy on-line other than convenience? Personally even now I try to buy fragile things locally because of the convenience and cost savings of the return should it be necessary.
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Tax does not play a big part in the section of the market I am in. 1 or more hours away from a city and most shopping. We buy online because we get fast shipping and a bigger selection and in most cases the only selection we get. I buy everything from groceries and cleaning supplies to computer parts. I save big money in gas and use of my vehicle. I even buy furniture.
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01/11/12, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by painterswife
Tax does not play a big part in the section of the market I am in. 1 or more hours away from a city and most shopping. We buy online because we get fast shipping and a bigger selection and in most cases the only selection we get. I buy everything from groceries and cleaning supplies to computer parts. I save big money in gas and use of my vehicle. I even buy furniture.
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Bingo!!
Most people who purchase online have no clue about sales tax, they purchase for convenience and price. There is something to be said for ordering gifts from the comfort of your bedroom ove the internet compared to going to a retail stor, then packing, then shipping.
Jim
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