the neighbor's dog wanted to chase chickens at 4am

mpillow · #1 08/15/12, 10:54 AM

a husky dog.....killed a chicken and a rabbit...played with the calf...

My son called the young guy (Mr. fireworks over my barn) and told him to "come tie up his flipping dog before my mother goes out..." the fireworks have stopped altogether.

plan to have a chat with the young man again. This is the second offense by the dog....first time bunny got away but the dog has destroyed 3 cages now....
It isn't the dogs fault...only instinct...and owner prolly needs a good heavy chain for his dog...

Depending on his attitude I may ask him to pay $40 for damages and/or tell him to take the $40 and get the dog secured properly once and for all.

Common Tator · #2 08/15/12, 11:04 AM

Print this up and give it to him.
6. Dogs. This subsection applies to nuisance dogs.
A. A game warden may kill a dog outside the enclosure or immediate care of its owner or keeper when
the game warden finds that dog:
(1) Chasing, killing, wounding or pursuing a moose or deer at any time;
(2) Chasing, killing, wounding or pursuing any other wild animal in closed season; or
(3) Worrying, wounding or killing a domestic animal, livestock or poultry. [2003, c. 614,
§9 (AFF); 2003, c. 655, Pt. B, §243 (AMD); 2003, c. 655, Pt. B,
§422 (AFF).]
B. An owner of domestic animals, livestock or poultry, a member of the owner's family or a person to
whom is entrusted the custody of domestic livestock or poultry may kill any dog killing or attacking the
domestic animals, livestock or poultry. [2003, c. 414, Pt. A, §2 (NEW); 2003, c.
614, §9 (AFF).]

http://www.mainelegislature.org/legi...tle12ch921.pdf

**GREENCOUNTYPETE** · #3 08/15/12, 12:06 PM

a farmer may kill a dog anytime it harasses his or her live stock , need not forget who the largest lobby and biggest oldest sector of business is in the state.

tally up total damages , include your time at a fare rate of $XX.XX and present him with a bill

let him know next time it will cost him damages and the dog 3 strikes is more than fair.

KMA1 · #4 08/15/12, 12:52 PM

At my house: boom, poor dog fell over dead. Planting on the back forty midmorning. No second chances. No reprieves unless the dog is extremely fast.

Darren · #5 08/15/12, 12:55 PM

How many others here have seen huskys do that? I had one husky. The dog was almost impossible to contain until I electrifed the fence. The dog was instant death for any small animal she found when she got loose.

The husky will be back. It's only a matter of time.

mekasmom · #6 08/15/12, 01:20 PM

Huskeys are very prey oriented. His dog is too much for him if he is unwilling to contain it. At our house, the poor dog would come up missing and be found in a shelter about 100miles away or more. I don't have the heart to kill a stray, but many have taken a ride to a shelter far, far away over the last thirty years. None have found their way back to this area.

poorboy · #7 08/15/12, 02:02 PM

Moved into the neighborhood a few years back an turned his Husky loose to run, it went around and gathered up a pack of (until then) non troublesome dogs. It then proceeded to return to his property and led the pack in attacking HIS flock of sheep..Got mad an shot his husky and everyone elses dog also..

Darren · #8 08/15/12, 02:50 PM

A friend of the family had a bunch of cats and a husky that mostly stayed inside. The husky was with the cats from when it was a pup. One day it grabbed a cat that was walking by, shook it, and broke its neck.

I never knew what huskies were like until we had one. I'll never have another. The only time I've been dog bit was by that husky when I stopped her from attacking a dachshund.

I don't think people understand how prey oriented they are. I could see that when I walked the dog. It wasn't eyeing smaller animals to be friendly.

Since moving here, I've never had a husky show up.

mpillow · #9 08/15/12, 06:46 PM

I brought the dead chicken up to him in a box tonight and gave fair warning....told him where to find the best chain, swivel and run cable....he apologized and said not to feel bad if I end up having to shoot the dog.....

Fair enough.

julieq · #10 08/15/12, 07:41 PM

Around here? With the amount of money we have in our poultry and livestock?

SSS. Shoot, shovel and shut up. We wouldn't be posting it here as we wouldn't have a problem, period.

Wolf mom · #11 08/15/12, 11:23 PM

People know dogs dig under fences, slip collars, etc. so why in the world don't people take responsibility for their animals and dog/critter proof their hutches, cages, get an LGD etc.?

I am really tired of reading about the blame game with everyone jumping on board with no one taking responsibility.

And yes, I've walked that walk - now I have perimeter fencing and interior fencing where needed. All it took was one kill to realize what needed to be done.

CottageLife · #12 08/16/12, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mpillow

I brought the dead chicken up to him in a box tonight and gave fair warning....told him where to find the best chain, swivel and run cable....he apologized and said not to feel bad if I end up having to shoot the dog.....

Fair enough.

You have been very patient but your neighbor is an -----! He should be responsible enough to properly contain HIS dog. I love dogs, and as you said, this isn't the dogs fault, it is his nature. The owner should either be a responsible owner or rehome the dog. I'm sure if the husky goes missing he'll just get another dog

fordy · #13 08/16/12, 09:28 AM

............You exercised far more understanding and intelligence relative to the breed than the owner! It's to bad that all members of the Spitz family can't be kept in the northern tier of states where they can be trained too pull sleds and not subjected too the intense heat of the south . They are a cold weather breed and really suffer when they live too far south . Thanks for having more understanding about the nature of your neighbors dog than he does ! , fordy

Common Tator · #14 08/16/12, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf mom

People know dogs dig under fences, slip collars, etc. so why in the world don't people take responsibility for their animals and dog/critter proof their hutches, cages, get an LGD etc.?

I am really tired of reading about the blame game with everyone jumping on board with no one taking responsibility.

And yes, I've walked that walk - now I have perimeter fencing and interior fencing where needed. All it took was one kill to realize what needed to be done.

I was surprised to see the victim being blamed, until I looked at who was posting. You ALWAYS defend dogs over the animals they are killing. And you ALWAYS tell people to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to fence out the dogs of irresponsible people.

Were you offering to pay for fencing for the OP, or are you just telling her how to spend her money?

terri9630 · #15 08/16/12, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf mom

People know dogs dig under fences, slip collars, etc. so why in the world don't people take responsibility for their animals and dog/critter proof their hutches, cages, get an LGD etc.?

I am really tired of reading about the blame game with everyone jumping on board with no one taking responsibility.

And yes, I've walked that walk - now I have perimeter fencing and interior fencing where needed. All it took was one kill to realize what needed to be done.

I've shot 2 dogs for going after my live stock. I have a 6ft WALL WITH A 4FT DEEP FOUNDATION, chickens in a coop and a fence around rabbit area in case one gets out to make it easier to catch them. I have done plenty to protect my animals and have still lost animals to dogs who have managed to come over my wall. I will shoot any dog that goes after my animals. I think I've done plenty to protect my livestock. Perhaps you should instruct the dog owners on how to keep their dogs in their yard so he doesn't get shot or hit by a car.

Wolf mom · #16 08/16/12, 09:25 PM

Yuppers, I do defend the dogs because over the years I've seen so many testosterone laden SSS posts.

No one wants to talk about options and try to work out solutions. Just OMG a dog killed my chicken - I have to get my gun & shoot it. That's what I'm tired of. These threads seem to bring that attitude out of the woodwork.

People HAVE built critter proof shelters - why can't this be discussed? Lets help each other.

As far as your comment, Common Tator, I sit on 5 acres against the national forest that this lil' ole lady perimeter fenced herself with 3 - 10 ft gates. And it didn't cost all that much.
When I weigh the option of having my animals killed, fencing, building materials and/or a LGD just aren't that expensive.

**AngieM2** · #17 08/16/12, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf mom

Yuppers, I do defend the dogs because over the years I've seen so many testosterone laden SSS posts.

No one wants to talk about options and try to work out solutions. Just OMG a dog killed my chicken - I have to get my gun & shoot it. That's what I'm tired of. These threads seem to bring that attitude out of the woodwork.

People HAVE built critter proof shelters - why can't this be discussed? Lets help each other.

As far as your comment, Common Tator, I sit on 5 acres against the national forest that this lil' ole lady perimeter fenced herself with 3 - 10 ft gates. And it didn't cost all that much.
When I weigh the option of having my animals killed, fencing, building materials and/or a LGD just aren't that expensive.

You may want to take the confrontation and not liking SSS to some other forum, such as GC. Here is survival and emergency prep - and that does include killing invaders if they don't go away.

If you have an issue with it, maybe you'll educate the dog owners. then you won't have to be all bothered about SSS.

Please leave your GC type of postings out of this forum.

Trixters_muse · #18 08/17/12, 09:39 AM

My neighbor has several dogs and we had shouting matches all the time over her dogs jumping the fences and ruining my garden area, jumping into my ponds and chasing my chickens. I finally got the back area fenced in with a 6 foot fence, bamboo and other measures to keep dogs and people out but now they are going under her house in her back yard and coming out in the front yard and jumping the front fence which is only 4 ft. I live in a neighborhood near town so shooting a dog is not a good thing to do not to mention this crazy lady would have every animal rights activist on my door within 5 minutes.

We had a pow-wow about 5 days ago and I threatened to call the city, now she is taking her dogs for walks at 2am and allowing them to poop in front of my mailbox, a neighbor saw her do it twice.

Just this morning I woke up with one of her pit bulls sleeping on my porch, it growls when it sees me and it has already killed a dog so this makes me real nervous. I called her and told her to come get her beast off my property and she informed me she was at work, deal with it until she got home at 3pm. I told her I would call animal control immediately and THEY could deal with it. She arrived 30 minutes later, by that time he had jumped back over the fence and was on her porch.

I hope the OP has better luck dealing with her problem than I have had dealing with mine.

mpillow · #19 08/17/12, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Trixters_muse

My neighbor has several dogs and we had shouting matches all the time over her dogs jumping the fences and ruining my garden area, jumping into my ponds and chasing my chickens. I finally got the back area fenced in with a 6 foot fence, bamboo and other measures to keep dogs and people out but now they are going under her house in her back yard and coming out in the front yard and jumping the front fence which is only 4 ft. I live in a neighborhood near town so shooting a dog is not a good thing to do not to mention this crazy lady would have every animal rights activist on my door within 5 minutes.

We had a pow-wow about 5 days ago and I threatened to call the city, now she is taking her dogs for walks at 2am and allowing them to poop in front of my mailbox, a neighbor saw her do it twice.

Just this morning I woke up with one of her pit bulls sleeping on my porch, it growls when it sees me and it has already killed a dog so this makes me real nervous. I called her and told her to come get her beast off my property and she informed me she was at work, deal with it until she got home at 3pm. I told her I would call animal control immediately and THEY could deal with it. She arrived 30 minutes later, by that time he had jumped back over the fence and was on her porch.

I hope the OP has better luck dealing with her problem than I have had dealing with mine.

I would call 911 if the dog was on my land and growling at me if I lived in such close confines.....Pitbulls are potentially volatile and its not neighborly for folks to let them roam or mark territory that isn't theirs. Not all pits are bad but growling at you is unacceptable....its a threat. Take pictures...a mailbox camera? Bear spray or stunner?

The husky is a friendly dog doesnt bark unless he's excited or wants something...a good citizen...but his owner needs to be responsible. The dog catcher will issue a $200 get out of doggy jail around here...BTDT

I like dogs and would hate to have to kill one....but it does happen. Just like any other animal around here....my brother shot his buck goat after it butted him one too many times...

Darren · #20 08/17/12, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixters_muse

My neighbor has several dogs and we had shouting matches all the time over her dogs jumping the fences and ruining my garden area, jumping into my ponds and chasing my chickens. I finally got the back area fenced in with a 6 foot fence, bamboo and other measures to keep dogs and people out but now they are going under her house in her back yard and coming out in the front yard and jumping the front fence which is only 4 ft. I live in a neighborhood near town so shooting a dog is not a good thing to do not to mention this crazy lady would have every animal rights activist on my door within 5 minutes.

We had a pow-wow about 5 days ago and I threatened to call the city, now she is taking her dogs for walks at 2am and allowing them to poop in front of my mailbox, a neighbor saw her do it twice.

Just this morning I woke up with one of her pit bulls sleeping on my porch, it growls when it sees me and it has already killed a dog so this makes me real nervous. I called her and told her to come get her beast off my property and she informed me she was at work, deal with it until she got home at 3pm. I told her I would call animal control immediately and THEY could deal with it. She arrived 30 minutes later, by that time he had jumped back over the fence and was on her porch.

I hope the OP has better luck dealing with her problem than I have had dealing with mine.

Spray some of this on your mailbox post and front fence. Most dogs aren't going to stick around when they think they may be on the menu. I'd get a game camera to record the action at the mailbox. You may end up with one of America's funniest videos when the pit bull runs away from the mailbox dragging your neighbor behind.

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silverseeds · #21 08/17/12, 01:20 PM

Poison can work as well as a bullet for a crazy dog...

Even if you are called on it, no one knows the poison was on a piece of meat, could be you just have mice/rats you want to keep away so snakes arent drawn as much to your spot, and this finding your chickens eggs.

terri9630 · #22 08/17/12, 02:46 PM

Mpillow, I wouldn't bother with a neighbor like that anymore. I'd just call the pound and let them notify her. When you call the pound let them know its a dog that has been growling at you and has killed before. Around here they will take it even if it runs back onto its property and won't release it unless the owner shows they can and will keep it on their property.

KMA1 · #23 08/17/12, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf mom

Yuppers, I do defend the dogs because over the years I've seen so many testosterone laden SSS posts.

I guess one of those would be me. I do love and defend dogs and I do keep mine where they belong. Others with dogs must accept the responsibility to do the same. It is not a livestock owner's responsibility to fencing for irresponsible people.

No one wants to talk about options and try to work out solutions. Just OMG a dog killed my chicken - I have to get my gun & shoot it. That's what I'm tired of. These threads seem to bring that attitude out of the woodwork.

I am talking about the most expedient option. And the most expedient solution in the country. I noticed that the owner of the Dog in the stories above didn't even offer to pay for the losses.

And I can tell you that any dog any time who makes a threatening movement
or warning growl at me own my farm is a dead dog.
People HAVE built critter proof shelters - why can't this be discussed? Lets help each other.

Yes they have and I can not understand why it is so hard for some ignorant dog owners not to build them for their dogs so they don't get ouyt and harm other people's animals. And why some people come here and try to make a case that this is really the responsibility of the victim rather that the idiot owner. Its just that simple!

As far as your comment, Common Tator, I sit on 5 acres against the national forest that this lil' ole lady perimeter fenced herself with 3 - 10 ft gates. And it didn't cost all that much.

I am not Common Tater, but I will say great for you! Now you can keep your dogs controlled where they don't have a chance to kill someone else's animals.

When I weigh the option of having my animals killed, fencing, building materials and/or a LGD just aren't that expensive.

I am glad you have the money, but then, if you are a dog owner, you really need it to keep your animals under your control.

Ozarks Tom · #24 08/17/12, 07:00 PM

We've got a problem in the making. About a month ago I spotted a black/mottled pit bull about 500 yards from the house. He eventually (a couple days) got closer, and I could see he was emaciated and chewed up. Before I could get my rifle he ran off. A couple days later I saw our nearest (1/2 mile) neighbor and asked her if she'd seen it. She said they'd adopted it! Took it to a vet, been feeding is along with their other 2 dogs. My dogs are fenced, but every now and then do get out (my fault), our chickens and rabbits have secure housing, but nothing is foolproof. I'd hate to create friction with the neighbors, but I've seen it around the edges of our property, which tells me my animals are potentially in danger. I don't see any way around SSS, and especially the last S.