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08/26/11, 04:04 PM
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Reidual effects from Irene possible for rest of us?
Do you think that if the power goes down on the east coast that the rest or part of the nation's grid would be affected?
I know we totally expect to be put on hold for stuff we have been anxiously waiting on the Feds for ...for our small business. Even the earthquake put DC behind for a day and a half...
You think there will be a whole surge of new preppers after this huge storm wakes a few folks up to the fact that life can drastically change and Micky-D's might not have power to fry up your nuggets??
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08/26/11, 04:07 PM
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I think there might be some for awhile afterwards but then they'll forget and just say "we already survived the 100 year storm we're in the clear!" type thing.
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08/26/11, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by secretcreek
Do you think that if the power goes down on the east coast that the rest or part of the nation's grid would be affected?
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Doubtful. There are too many redundancies built in.
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You think there will be a whole surge of new preppers after this huge storm wakes a few folks up to the fact that life can drastically change and Micky-D's might not have power to fry up your nuggets??
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Of course there will. It always happens. Then the excitement dies down and everyone goes back to the way they were.
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08/26/11, 04:55 PM
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Although I have no knowledge of the technical specifics, it wouldn't surprise me if there was some way they could give us in the mid-west rolling black outs in order to divert power to coastal areas. Not really a problem for me, but it would be much easier if the PTB could let us know when our area would be down so we could plan accordingly.
My mother called earlier and asked me this same question. I told her that our gas prices would raise, so she should go fill up and that I suspect that bottled water/batteries would be in short supply for a few weeks since most of it would be diverted to storm-affected areas, so if she needed some it would be best to go buy now. I also suspect that building supplies will become more scarce, poorer quality lumber, and more expensive due to increased demand. And depending on who insured whom, home owners insurance may well go up even for those of us in unaffected areas, since the insurers will never go along with taking a loss.
Of course, anything that involves the feds based in DC or any businesses based in the affected areas will probably be working on a delay due to both lack of electric power and lack of human power - if it gets really bad, people won't be able to get into work or will have bigger problems on their hands.
I have wondered about long term - if this could bring about the catastrophic damage that would be the last straw to break our economic camel's back. And I suppose it could happen. I would also be curious to see which foreign powers are quick to send us financial aid and which don't.
Kind of proves who your friends are, doesn't it?
Oh well, it all remains to be seen. How strong of a storm, where, with what result, etc. I don't have the gift of prophesy so I'll just have to wait and see
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08/26/11, 04:58 PM
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I expect an increase in the cost of building material.
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08/26/11, 05:02 PM
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I was thinking about this yesterday. I'm not sure if anyone else remembers the brown/black out of 2003? The grid comes right on down from NY and over into the midwest. Where I worked at the time was on the edge of that blackout but it didn't make it out to our house.
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08/26/11, 05:04 PM
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Mre's will be really hard to come by, besides the ones fema has already hogged. Building materials, gennie's, batteries , flashlights etc will also be affected. Home depot and lowes will have all their big rigs loaded with supplies etc sitting at truck stops, just waiting for the all clear to head in to the disaster zones. Gas trucks, milk deliveries, grocery's etc all the same.
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08/26/11, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nadja
Home depot and lowes will have all their big rigs loaded with supplies etc sitting at truck stops, just waiting for the all clear to head in to the disaster zones. Gas trucks, milk deliveries, grocery's etc all the same.
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Hmmm.... has that actually happened in the past?
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08/26/11, 06:05 PM
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Hmmm.... has that actually happened in the past?
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I don't know about Lowes but Home Depot has a disaster relief program.
https://corporate.homedepot.com/wps/...vyHZUBAA3rcQa/
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<TABLE class="main_content main_div_main" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>The Home Depot and its more than 300,000 associates are passionate about helping their neighbors during times of need. When disaster strikes, The Home Depot is among the first organizations on the scene to ensure its customers have the supplies, resources and support they need to rebuild their homes and communities.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>The Home Depot takes an integrated approach to its disaster relief efforts through ongoing support of local and national non-profit partners and the mobilization of the Team Depot associate volunteers. The Home Depot is also a member of the American Red Cross Annual Disaster Giving Program (ADGP). The Company’s $500,000 contribution to the ADGP each year enables the Red Cross to respond immediately to the needs of individuals and families affected by disaster anywhere in the United States.
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08/26/11, 06:38 PM
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I'm not physically active enough to engage my little pea brain away from worrying over what might be. So, I do think this storm has the potential to effect electrical services, and specifically the safe operation of nuclear power plants. I sometimes wish I didn't even know those things existed.
Oh well, enough worrying and I hope everyone stays safe and that the storm will go out to sea and leave us be.
I'm prepped with all kinds of non-electrical do-dads, but I'm not real happy if I'm forced to use them. I wish I had access to a better source for energy, one that's more reliable and cheap.
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08/26/11, 07:11 PM
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I remember that in 2003. I lived in MI at the time just north of the blackout. The grocery store I worked at was one of the first 3 past the blackout in our area. The shelves where bare in no time. I'm in GA now, just south of Savannah. We had some winds earlier. I have friends in SC and NC, I'm praying for them.
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08/26/11, 07:25 PM
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We have a private company around here that does power line work, putting in poles, repairs to lines or putting in new lines. They have been called and are on their way down across the border to the US as I type. They are to go to a staging area, not sure where, and be ready to go as soon as the storm is over. They have been down that way a few times to help repair lines.
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08/26/11, 07:32 PM
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I think that the declaring the early state of emergency allows them to have these helpers standing by.
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08/26/11, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
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We have a private company around here that does power line work, putting in poles, repairs to lines or putting in new lines. They have been called and are on their way down across the border to the US as I type. They are to go to a staging area, not sure where, and be ready to go as soon as the storm is over. They have been down that way a few times to help repair lines.
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So does your area already have plenty of crews to do the same thing and you don't need the services of that private company where you are? I was just reading that where you are is slated to get fairly hard hit too.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...128453908.html
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08/26/11, 07:48 PM
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We are pretty well off in this area, and there are a couple of this type of company in this area. They have to be pre-approved to do the cross border work and not every company is. We should be good here, or at least I hope.....
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08/26/11, 07:48 PM
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All I know is that if this does pass without causing damage, very shortly one will be able to pick up generators and other shtf supplies really cheap. After 2000 here, it was amazing how many people were dumping bags of sugar, wheat, oats, beans, and various items like generators, compost tumblers, things like that DIRT cheap. The average person gets tired of tripping over something, add it's out the door before it needs it's first dusting!
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08/26/11, 09:17 PM
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Quote:
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You think there will be a whole surge of new preppers after this huge storm wakes a few folks up to the fact that life can drastically change and Micky-D's might not have power to fry up your nuggets??
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Yep, and even a bigger surge of great "once owned but never used" equipment on e-bay in about 10 mos. People will "freak out" for a few months, stock up and prep. Then when nothing else major happens within a few month they will start to forget....want that shelf back....need more room in the closet for that sale at XYZ Dept store. True long term preppers should be able to get some bargains in the coming months.
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