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Old 07/08/11, 10:29 PM
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Agrarian Lifestyle - Anyone Else

After having just finished reading "Living Off off-grid" By non other than Michael Bunker I have realized that I was on the path to the Agrarian Lifestyle and didn't even know it.

We sold off our "just outside the city" place and moved to a very remote rural area where we owned some vacant acreage for a planned someday BOL.

I had told my wife on many occasions that I could not stay as close to God where we had been and where I had been working so we needed to move on. We moved here under the worst conditions at a speed that was neck breaking due to a quicker sale on the house than expected and some "get out right away terms" by the buyer.

Note: Be careful when you pray for something, be specific or otherwise you may end up with "exactly" what you asked for.

The Agrarian Life is exactly what we have been working towards without ever knowing what it was. We are getting this place set up to be a work for God... We even call the place "God's Ridge".

Even though we shouldn't be prideful about building a self sustaining life and we should always give God the credit... I think the Agrarian Life is the life God would have us live. It provides for everything needed for our survival until we are integrated into the eternal life God has planned for his children.

I have a distaste for city living and really don't like going to town for much anymore, we are always looking for like minded people to discuss things with, so if you are thinking along the same lines, lets have a discussion.

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Old 07/08/11, 11:21 PM
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I have that book downloaded on my Kindle, just not to it yet.

Sounds as if you've found a haven - I find I go into "town" on the weekends less and less. I sure am glad you have your place and I look forward to reading that off-off grid book.

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Old 07/08/11, 11:59 PM
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Angie,

I promise if you read the book with open eyes and draw your own conclusions you will never be the same person again. It was a great read and he has a new book out and available as of today that I am already reading... "Modern Religious Idols"

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"Modern Religious Idols" what's that about since it's not quite as plain as the Off Off Grid title.

I need to go read about 7 or 8 books.

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Old 07/09/11, 12:15 AM
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I'm about halfway through his "Modern Religious Idols". It's a tough read because I keep following back to his scriptural references.

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Old 07/09/11, 12:27 AM
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Yeah Ernie I hear ya! I have my bible right beside me making my usual 6x6 read (which is reading 6 verses prior and 6 after each reference someone gives me to make sure of the context. At first I was a little skeptical of the book but the further in I read the more truth seems to flow. I'm still early on, but the references about Paul and the Belly are showing up in a light I obviously have missed when reading them before. How do you like the book so far?

Angie,

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Idol worship may seem like just a curious anachronism to our modern sensibilities. The Old Testament is replete with God's commands against it and Israel's temptation to it, but the average reader of today may feel quite insulated from the whole matter. Idolatry is dismissed as ancient naiveté, the impulse of the unlearned, and a superstition that the enlightened man has outgrown. In the following pages, Michael Bunker strikes at the heart of such comfortable assumptions by demonstrating that idolatry is still as alive and malignant as ever, the difference between the ancient world and ours being only that idolatry has become more subtle and idolaters more sophisticated. Instead of having outgrown idolatry, men have nurtured and perfected it. No longer do we craft our idols out of wood and stone, leaving their obvious lifelessness to unsettle our consciences; now we give our idols the breath of life by enshrining them in unbiblical ideas, selfish values and worldly assumptions. Idolatry has always been a matter of the heart; the external manifestations merely change with the times and fall in and out of fashion. The purpose of this present volume is to expose and tear down the subtle idols of the heart that have been enshrined all around us and within us.

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So... what's it got to do with S&EP?

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wvstuck, I could have written your op. I feel exactly the same...right down to the be careful what you pray for LOL
Until I read that book, I didn't really understand what agrarian meant. Now not only do I understand but now I know what to call what I have been working towards for so long.

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Sounds like 2 books I would love to read. Guess I'll have to add them to my list. I'm a firm believer that this topic fits in this forum because when a person takes care of the land and animals God has blessed them with, then it becomes a survival tool. After all, what better way to survive than to be able to live off the land?

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So... what's it got to do with S&EP?
Because the S&EP moderator asked what the book was about, and she asked that as it followed from the "off Off Grid" premise which even you would agree is VERY S&EP.

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Here is a link if anyone is interested: Off, Off Grid

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Old 07/09/11, 09:04 AM
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OOG great book...

Like you it was something I was feeling to call to move toward already and it put a name to it...

Disentangling from the web of modernity will take me a little time as there are some commitments to deal with but I'm going that way...

This forum is like a book of the month club, LOL...

Modern Religious Idols... Bookfinder, here I come...

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So... what's it got to do with S&EP?
You can use the book to hide a can of beans if you'd like.
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So... what's it got to do with S&EP?
If you read the book you'll quickly realize that these folks have built a community where survival is a lifestyle that involves everyday choices and everyday living. Survival in an Agrarian Life is not something they are planning for when and if something comes along, they live prepared everyday of their lives. Self Sufficiency is not their mantra, sufficiency provided by God would be a better description.

Survival and Emergency Preparedness: The Agrarian is already there... There could not be a better relation than that.
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Congratulations on finding "your" place in this world. An Agrarian lifestyle sounds idyllic, to be sure. And, it is the correct lifestyle for some, but not all.

We all have God-given talents. Eventually God will disclose to us what each of our talents are if He has'nt done so already. We need people living an agrarian way of life. We also need carpenters, engineers, pilots, and factory workers. Oh, and we need soldiers. If everyone gravitated towards just an agrarian lifestyle, we would be invaded from all four points of the compass within a year. Yeah, I know... it doesn't sound as idyllic, does it? But thats the reality of it all.

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Old 07/09/11, 12:24 PM
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I've yearned for that life and I've tried to make it happen, but ultimately I can't get there yet. Not yet. So close, but not yet.

It is God's will that I go out into the world for a time. As much as I'd like to retreat and pull up the drawbridge, it has been revealed that I have not reached that point in my life yet.

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I would love to live that lifestyle...It is what i have always dreamt of.

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I still want my washing machine! LOL I've lived without electricity a number of yrs and I've washed tooooo many loads of laundry by hand.

While I think it is a good goal not to be enslaved to our modern "conveniences", yet there are some things, like the washer, that make such a huge difference in quality of life, that you'd probably want to consider long and hard before ditching them completely. Now tv, I tossed that out long ago. I've been enjoying the net while it is available, but could get be without it. I really like having electric lights and will keep those as long as possible too. Running water may not seem like a necessity until you start pumping it by hand for irrigation and the livestock as well as household use. Even worse is hauling your water. Don't do that if you can avoid it.

Don't forget, until electricity became widely available, it was the norm for households to have at least one maid to help with the housework except for families with more children than money.

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Congratulations on finding "your" place in this world. An Agrarian lifestyle sounds idyllic, to be sure. And, it is the correct lifestyle for some, but not all.

We all have God-given talents. Eventually God will disclose to us what each of our talents are if He has'nt done so already. We need people living an agrarian way of life. We also need carpenters, engineers, pilots, and factory workers. Oh, and we need soldiers. If everyone gravitated towards just an agrarian lifestyle, we would be invaded from all four points of the compass within a year. Yeah, I know... it doesn't sound as idyllic, does it? But thats the reality of it all.
While it's true there is need for some specialists but everyone (unless you're in the concrete jungle, and if so get out!) can grow their own garden for basic foods. I think the focus is more a turning away from the evils that have lured man away from God and to return to Him...

As for the soldiers, law and order, community policing etc. just remember the minute men... When the call is just, good men rise to the occasion...
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When the call is just, good men rise to the occasion...
Let's just hope they heed the call when it is sounded. We will need every able-bodied person when TSHTF.
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