Big Brother can track your shopping - even if you use cash!

[ladycat]

The following blog article was written by the newspaper columnist Jill Cataldo. She attended an industry conference last week, and this article is a result.

Note the 3rd paragraph under Retailers respond which reads:

Another retailer said that they have tracked their "extreme couponers'" shopping habits throughout various store locations within their chain. He said that the store's closed-circuit television system has the ability to zoom to "fingernail level" and see what coupons are being redeemed at the register by calling up the date of a transaction on a computer screen and clicking that day and time's video. He said that they can also "follow" the same shoppers' path, again via in-store video, as the shopper goes from store to store to store, using up more multiples of the same coupon, often clearing the shelves in the process.

http://jillcataldo.com/gang_cut_coupons

There is face-recognition software in use for various purposes. Parking lot cameras can also track shoppers' license plates.

Although the technology is primarily used in forensics, it's very disturbing to know that Homeland Security or other government agencies would have the ability to track individuals who are buying "suspicious" amounts of survival goods and LTS foods, even if those individuals use cash and spread their purchases out over multiple stores.

No doubt, the security camera systems used by stores could be tied into a central database. I can envision people being monitored via screens at some central government building, as they go about their shopping routines and other errands.

[mekasmom]

Originally Posted by ladycat

Homeland Security or other government agencies would have the ability to track individuals who are buying "suspicious" amounts of survival goods and LTS foods, even if those individuals use cash and spread their purchases out over multiple stores.

No doubt, the security camera systems used by stores could be tied into a central database. I can envision people being monitored via screens at some central government building, as they go about their shopping routines and other errands.

It is disturbing to think that buying food could be considered something even remotely related to anything homeland security should be interested in. Although, after Japan's catastrophe they said that people in that nation were not allowed to have a lot of food. It is against the law there to have a full pantry. I hope we never come to that.

And the last paragraph just reeks of 1984, doesn't it?

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

wow they can do all that an yet a price check takes 10 minutes. they can't figure out not to put things on the eggs . or how to keep the avacodos form going rock hard to mush before they sell them.

if only they could use their super powers for good.

see and now you know the real reason france doesn't want women wearing face coverings , they walk so no car and with no face they can't track the extreem copon users

[Harry Chickpea]

I sense a new market in Groucho Marx noses and glasses.

[kirkmcquest]

If this is what the government is spending our money on, its no wonder they're collapsing.

[Ernie]

A few years ago on this forum when I posted instructions on how to defeat and befuddle facial recognition systems, I was called paranoid and even likened to a criminal for not only knowing such things, but for discussing them openly.

Now it's good to see the rest of you are catching up to where I'm at.

[ladycat]

Originally Posted by mekasmom

It is disturbing to think that buying food could be considered something even remotely related to anything homeland security should be interested in.

And the last paragraph just reeks of 1984, doesn't it?

I'm guessing you haven't seen certain past threads in S&EP.

The president has the power under the law to sign an order that allows for the removal of food from an individual residence for the purpose of re-distribution during an emergency.

There have also been other topics about people being tracked/monitored in various ways in order to know who's got what in the way of resources. That way during a state of emergency, the authorities know which houses to head for to use or take those resources.

My step-father was on the city council for decades. He was no conspiracy theorist, but even he was disturbed when a HS guy came to a council meeting and started asking all kinds of questions about the town citizens. Things like, who has a storm cellar or basement, who would be able to take in families from the city during a state of emergency, who had a garden or food animals, etc.

The government guy wanted to record all that info, but those old farmers on the council got suspicious and weren't very cooperative.

[kully]

Post it again Ernie!

[Becka03]

ughhh this is disturbing

[Ernie]

http://steal-this-nation.blogspot.co...cognition.html

When I wrote this originally it was a discussion of how to defeat Chicago's "cameras on every block" initiative. I guess we didn't protest that enough and now we get cameras tracking our movements in the grocery stores.

[Sonshine]

Thanks for re-posting Ernie.

[Honduras Trish]

Man, you guys sure know how to make living in a third world country look good! The government here is corrupt, but at least they're unsophisticated.

[Ernie]

Originally Posted by Sonshine

Thanks for re-posting Ernie.

Hey, my pleasure. DHS reads that dead blog of mine almost weekly to see if I'm posting, so I guess you might as well too.

[InvalidID]

Originally Posted by Ernie

A few years ago on this forum when I posted instructions on how to defeat and befuddle facial recognition systems, I was called paranoid and even likened to a criminal for not only knowing such things, but for discussing them openly.

Now it's good to see the rest of you are catching up to where I'm at.

NEvermind, I should have read the whole thread...my bad.

[crispin]

My security video system here at my house has facial recognition, it is not a new or very expensive technology.
Once I have 'labeled' a face in my system I can pull up every time they were in my home and where they went.
The Government isn't spending tons of money on this, my system cost around $2,000 and has 16 cameras. It is very common technology and this article is just sensationalism

[ladycat]

Originally Posted by crispin

this article is just sensationalism

Did you actually read the article? Nothing sensationalistic about it. The paragraph I quoted wasn't even the point of the article.

[crispin]

Originally Posted by ladycat

Did you actually read the article? Nothing sensationalistic about it. The paragraph I quoted wasn't even the point of the article.

No - I just read the text that you had quoted.
I guess I miss-understood

[NewGround]

Maybe we should ask why, not how it is not "much" of an intrusion to me right now.

[Ernie]

Yeah, what they're doing here is wrong and if it were disclosed to you then you probably wouldn't shop there.

HOWEVER, let's face facts. Let's "embrace the suck" as my Marine friends would put it.

The reality of our situation is that WE are the enemy. WE have put ourselves in opposition to a government who wants to control every aspect of our lives. Even if you didn't realize this was what you were doing when you bought chickens, it's what you were doing. You took back some of the control over your own food supply. Others are taking back more and more control ... of their own medical care, of their own nutrition, of their own family education, of their physical security ... all of these things are counter to what the government desires.

If you're think you're a grey man, you're not. You've been sliced and diced and catalogued in ways you can't possibly imagine. There's only two things that are keeping them from kicking in your door right now and confiscating your food, your guns, your silver, your CHILDREN, and then throwing you down on the floor and harvesting your organs on the spot:

1. You aren't worth the effort yet.
2. They are afraid of what you (or others) will do when that starts happening.

Which option do you think provides for more long-term security against what has become the most well-armed gang of thugs in human history?

[Ernie]

Let me elaborate on that a little too, if I haven't YET been clear enough in my meaning.

In order to survive what's coming, you need to have the following:

1. Food
2. Shelter
3. Security
4. COMMUNITY

By community I mean at least one other human being that when you call them in the middle of the night asking about what to do with a corpse, they'll be over in 5 minutes with a shovel.

If you don't have THAT then you don't have squat. You're just collecting goods for the cannibal biker gangs, mercenaries, or government mercenary-thugs.

Better start building that if you haven't already. It's almost too late now. Before too much longer, you'll be taking a great risk just TALKING about these things.