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[Forerunner]

I received this in an email.....and found it interesting.
We'll see what the survey says.....



Hi, mutual natural health-lovers,
As the radiation fallout cloud moves along the Eastward-bound jetstream to USA and Canada from Japan, the flurry of information on radiation protection has moved with it. Most of them focused on protecting the thyroid with an iodine supplement, that is, iodide or iodate. If you will investigate the Chernobyl crises of 25 years ago, the consumption of iodine did not prevent thyroid cancer, leukemia or bone cancers but promoted them. Blocking radioactive iodine from thyroids sends it to bones and bone marrow, increasing risk of leukemia and bone cancers.

Appraisal of iodine
Any form of iodine that is not a natural part of fresh food is oxide, that is, it is rock. That includes any iodine supplement, even if the iodine were taken from a food source. Once it is processed into an isolated mineral, it is again rock, not food, whether powder, pill, or liquid. Animals cannot digest or utilize rock inter-cellularly, only plants can.
All iodine is radioactive isotope to varying degrees, not only iodine 131. That is why all forms of iodine, once exposed to radiation are radioactively charged for as long as 55,000 years. Iodine 131 may be radioactively charged for as long as 500,000 years.
When animals consume iodine supplements, it collects as mineral deposits somewhere in the body. Most often, I have found it in intestines, nervous system, brain, bones and bone marrow. If it were true and iodine supplements protected the thyroid, trading thyroid cancer for blood and/or bone cancer seems ill-advised to me. It is easier to affect thyroid therapy than bone and bone-marrow therapy. The thyroid is close to the skin but bone-marrow and bone are very difficult to affect directly because lymphatic circulation into those areas is extremely limited and slow. Blood-flow into those areas is also limited.
Having experienced iodine radiation treatments along with mechanical radiation treatments for metastasized stomach cancer, and having suffered the side effects of blood and bone cancers caused by radiation treatments, I can tell you that radiation-poisoning is terrible.
I suffered constant nausea, vomit and often diarrhea for years following those treatments. For my body to try and counter the radioactive iodine, my body ate its own bones to obtain the minerals calcium, magnesium, potassium and phosphorus to neutralize radioactive iodine and other radioactively charged minerals such as barium. I lost all of the bone around my teeth. My teeth dangling in my gums. When I closed my jaws and pressed teeth together, I bled profusely. I had up to 2 transfusions weekly. I had to drink all of my food. Everything had to be made into liquid and consumed through large straws. After one year of consuming lots of raw dairy, my mandible bones restored and I could chew with very little gum bleeding. However, my gums remained purple (indications of radiation-poisoning) for decades and bleeding continued during teeth-brushing to this day, although very little, 43 years after radiation treatments. I suffered other radiation-poisoning symptoms for years.
Later, I was instructed by alternative doctors to consume colloidal iodine supplement. I did and it caused nausea, impotence and anxiety, the same symptoms as radiation-poisoning. I stopped after 10 days. Iridologically, the supplemental iodine appeared in the areas relating to my stomach and intestines which I associated with nausea. Our bodies try to dump many industrial chemical toxins into stomach because our bodies use HCL to neutralize many toxins. Nausea causes and is an indication of HCL-production if your vagus nerve is attached to your stomach.
Non-bioactively bound iodine, that is, iodine that is not a natural part of fresh raw food is toxic to varying degrees. It is rarely ever beneficial. The risks far outweigh any benefits except to those promoting and selling iodine supplements. Generally, foods from the sea contain the most iodine, followed by other animal foods, and then plant foods. Of all foods seaweed, like kelp, is the most famous source of natural iodine however, humans digest about 2% kelp because it is a hard cellulose-based substance. Therefore, humans get almost no iodine from kelp. When it cooked, humans can derive much more from it but all of the minerals are cauterized and relatively free-radical. Raw eggs and raw dairy products are the best sources, followed by raw meats.
The USA government obviously wants us sick and/or dead. The HHS, FDA and CDC have campaigned against empirically and scientifically-proved-to-be-healthful raw milk for decades. Why? Is it because they know its high mineral concentration and soothing, nerve-protecting fats counteracts just about every toxin on earth? Their scientifically unsupported claims that raw diary is harmful and dangerous are as prejudicial and unfounded as any support of Apartheid was. If raw dairy were harmful, it would not have helped heal me from the myriad of diseases I suffered. I would not be alive and well today. Raw dairy is 60% of my diet. The Masai, Samburu and Fulani thrived for thousands of years eating predominantly raw milk products. If raw dairy were dangerous and harmful, they would have been extinct thousands of years ago.
We must be as logical and sensible at all times or we will fall prey to pharmaceutical chemistry-based nonsense. If the risks of environmental contamination are bearing down on us, we must be more resolute and cautious.

Remedies for Radiation Contamination
Here are the things that effectively helped me reduce radioactive toxins and symptoms in my body: Organic no-salt raw cheeses eaten frequently will help absorb and neutralize free-radical radioactive minerals; aloe vera gel eaten directly from the plant (do not eat green skin) helps soothe and heal radiation burn; oranges and avocados eaten together help neutralize radiation; pineapple and no-salt raw cheeses eaten together help dissolve cellular radiation damage and harness byproducts; papaya eaten with no-salt raw cheeses helps prevent scarring; no-salt raw butter eaten with no-salt raw cheeses helps prevent radioactive minerals from entering cells; no-salt raw butter eaten with unheated honey helps digestion and healing; and one ounce of raw milk consumed once hourly helps protect intestines and nerves.
Happy survival,
aajonus vonderplanitz, ph.d. nutrition
WeWant2Live.com
PrimalDiet.com

[mpillow]

My kids will be forced to drink a gallon of raw milk a day then....(wait they pretty much do already... I guess we're good)

[Forerunner]

Ditto that.

[Trisha in WA]

About the kelp. I wonder if consuming animal products from animals that were supplemented with kelp would help as well. I feed my milk cows free choice kelp. I certainly could add it to the chickens feed as well.
Also, I noticed they mentioned several times to eat things with "no-salt". I wonder why that is.
Very interesting article to say the least.

[tab]

Interesting thoughts on iodine supplementation. Iodized salt seems to help prevent goiter so I wonder if the body absorbs and utilizes small amounts.

[Ernie]

Well, first off there's no radiation that's reached American shores yet, so you can file this email in the same bin with the Nigerian prince who wants your help smuggling out his vast fortune.

Second, if radiation DOES reach us, the first place it accumulates is IN DAIRY. I'm as big of a fan of raw milk products as the next guy, but if there's radioactivity floating around, I'm NOT eating dairy. Period. And I'm certainly not upping my intake of it to try and flush the radioactivity out of my system.

Does this guy's health advice also include shooting yourself in the foot to help heal gunshot wounds?

[JuliaAnn]

Bet the seashores out west are going to be picked clean of that pesky seaweed.

Wonder how it tastes with some 'rainch' dressing on it?

If I drank a gallon of milk a day, we'd be having our own nuclear fallout down here...

[MO_cows]

I don't think the diet he describes would hurt you one bit, but I don't think it has all the magical properties that he attributes to it, either.

[salmonslayer]

Does this guy's health advice also include shooting yourself in the foot to help heal gunshot wounds?

I needed a laugh tonight, thanks Ernie!

[tab]

Did some research, got out some books, my thyroid books by Richard Shames MD do not seem to share the idea one cannot absorb iodine from supplements. Not sure if I totally agree either just because of goiter like I posted before. Is this a source you trust? Methinks it is a little too "enthusiastic".

[beaglebiz]

I think going with the red wine option seems to be the most fun...
And a little raw cheese on the side makes for a party

[Our Little Farm]

I'd rather continue to eat cheese than live life without it.

My advice is to eat as much cheese and homemade wine/beer as you can, you may not overcome radiation but at least you will die happy.

[Forerunner]

I didn't quite know what to make of the article, though I do support getting minerals and vitamins from plants, not pills.
I also believe raw dairy to be miracle food.
Interesting that radiation might accumulate in dairy.

Now, Ernie...... I know that the North American continent is safe from Japan's misfortune in the radioactive department, but we might have our very own earthquake, some day.

Edited to add........ Ernie, did you know that bleach is of the devil ?

[Calico Katie]

Seems like some of the health food people have decided to take advantage of the nuclear scare to drum up some business. I've seen e-mails posted on other sites, including a tatting group, with that same information. Mostly they've been pushing kelp. I'm not worried about radiation from Japan reaching the US. Anything is possible but I haven't seen, read or heard anything that makes me believe this is at all likely. Actually, I think the odds are much higher that California will get the big one than that we'll have fallout from Japan reach us. If California gets a 9.0 earthquake that damages nuclear reactors - then I'm going to be worried. Really, really worried.

[Ernie]

Originally Posted by Forerunner

I didn't quite know what to make of the article, though I do support getting minerals and vitamins from plants, not pills.
I also believe raw dairy to be miracle food.
Interesting that radiation might accumulate in dairy.

Now, Ernie...... I know that the North American continent is safe from Japan's misfortune in the radioactive department, but we might have our very own earthquake, some day.

Edited to add........ Ernie, did you know that bleach is of the devil ?

Oh, I expect we will suffer a pretty big quake here sooner or later that will crack a nuclear plant wide open, but cheese and raw milk isn't the solution! There's something about the way milk production in dairy animals absorbs radiation at a faster rate and expresses it out through that avenue. I remember sitting in a military field training class where the instructor went on and on about how you should avoid dairy products from cows that have been exposed to radiation. I remember thinking, "I've been eating MRE's for 12 days now. Where exactly is all this milk and cheese you keep referring to?"

It's the solution for what to have for lunch though. There's no such thing as too much cheese.

As for bleach, my wife has forbidden the stuff. She washes everything down with this horrid-smelling vinegar stuff that drives me out of the house for a time. Come to think of it ... that might be the purpose.

[Forerunner]

I can see why she'd want you out of the house on occasion.
But that's another thread.

As for the dairy, I figured it out.
The author of the article was addressing health food nuts, already.
He probably assumed that many if not most of the nuts already had sustainable electricity set-ups...say, water power.... and, hence, a full time mega refrigeration system. He was advising dipping into your frozen year's supply of dairy while the radiation holocaust runs its course.

You should get your wife a belated Valentine's day gallon or so of 35% hydrogen peroxide.

Oh, and.....for Pete's sake, Ernie....take a bath, already.

[Ernie]

Originally Posted by Forerunner

I can see why she'd want you out of the house on occasion.
But that's another thread.

As for the dairy, I figured it out.
The author of the article was addressing health food nuts, already.
He probably assumed that many if not most of the nuts already had sustainable electricity set-ups...say, water power.... and, hence, a full time mega refrigeration system. He was advising dipping into your frozen year's supply of dairy while the radiation holocaust runs its course.

You should get your wife a belated Valentine's day gallon or so of 35% hydrogen peroxide.

Oh, and.....for Pete's sake, Ernie....take a bath, already.

NOW I'm on board with your guy's email. Eat up all the frozen ice cream while the radiation burns!

You know my motto ... "Poor personal hygiene promotes personal space!"

Besides, it's like I'm a walking chronicle of industry. Under my fingernails is soil from the garden, coaldust from my ghetto-forge, gun oil, lanolin from the sheep, steel shavings from the grinder, and some cordite. Just like my shirt chronicles the last 14 meals that I've enjoyed.

But you're one to talk ... I had considered advising those who picked you for their "zombie team" to add 3 more crew positions so that you might be pursued, caught, and scrubbed every spring.

[Forerunner]

Oh, alright already ! Truce, it is.

[katy]

You two, Fr and Ernie are VERY sick puppies, but in such a fun way...... lol

Hang in there, in another 100 years we won't feel a thing.......

[Tracy Rimmer]

Whenever I see something like this, I sort the wheat from the chaff by considering the source. It's served me well up until now, because everyone has an agenda. Recognizing what someone's agenda includes helps me make decisions on whether or not to trust them.

So, I looked up the author. From Wikipedia:

Aajonus Vonderplanitz (born 1947) is an American nutritional consultant, speaker, author, and raw food diet advocate residing in Malibu, California. As of 2008, Aajonus has been eating an all-raw diet for 38 years. He developed the Primal Diet,[1][2][3] which is a diet consisting of fatty meats, organ meats, dairy, honey, vegetable juices, coconut cream, and minimal fruit, all raw.
In 1997, he authored a book entitled We Want To Live which included a brief autobiography as well as his raw diet theories and recipes, and he produced an enlarged updated edition of this book in 2005.[4] His second book, The Recipe for Living Without Disease, was published in 2002.[5]
In 2009, Vonderplanitz diet was featured as the most extreme health approach on The Doctors TV series episode "Ten Most Extreme Health Trends". In 2002, Vonderplanitz and his diet received national prime time TV exposure in the U.S. and many countries of the world with a featured segment, "Rotten Meat Eater", on Ripley's Believe It or Not.[6] He has also appeared in radio interviews such as Kim Cohen's "Raw To Radiant" show.

Now, while I agree with some of his ideals (raw milk, for example) I'm also aware that this guy has something to sell: namely, his books.

Besides, the dude is from Malibu