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Old 11/13/09, 03:05 PM
 
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Bulk foods

Hello everyone, I've been a member here for a few years, I post very little but I do read and appreciate all the information. I've just started my preps in the last month or so. I've found that buying at Sam's Club saved me money for most everything on my list but now I'm looking for a way to buy bulk grains. There are many good comments concerning Walton's Feed here but the shipping costs were more than my order!! I was wondering if there is a group or a person in or around NE Texas( Texarkana area) within 50 miles or so that is ordering from Walton's Feed that would like to share the shipping cost. Or maybe you guys have another source for bulk grains that are cheaper on shipping. I also tried WheatMontana but again the shipping cost are very high. Thanks
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Old 11/13/09, 03:08 PM
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Call both companies and ask about contact info for their truck pool coordinators for your area. That's the way to go. The down side is the long lag time between ordering and receiving.

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Old 11/13/09, 03:14 PM
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Honeyville Grains has a 15% OFF SALE Going right now.,
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coupon code "VETERANS"
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Old 11/13/09, 04:10 PM
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The Walton pool order came in last week. We can order thru Cynde Wilder at Breaking Bread Together in San Antonio, twice a year. Shipping is 16c/pound right now. If you call her, she can give you contact info for a group closer to you.
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Old 11/13/09, 05:30 PM
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Depending on how much you order, it might be worth while for you to drive up to Tulsa where you can eliminate the middle man by picking up buckets of organic wheat straight from the farmer. It's pre-frozen so no worries about bugs. You can get it in either bags or plastic lined buckets. The buckets aren't airtight so I buy mylar bags, line the buckets and refill them. pm if you'd like contact info for him.
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Old 11/13/09, 06:18 PM
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We get grains [barley, oats, corn] from local farmers and mills in 50 pound bags. They range from $5 to $8 per bag.

I get 40 bags at a time, and dump the grains into 55-gallon drums. Inside each drum I put desiccant to suck out the moisture and to make them store well.

We use these grains for ourselves and for our livestock.

By mixing them our livestock feed works out to around $7 per 50-pounds [and some added molasses and salt].

I would recommend that you look at mill prices if you have no nearby farmers.
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Old 11/13/09, 11:07 PM
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Check with your feed stores. You can find wheat and other grains there... Use buckets from your local bakers. I'd love to order a truckload of stuff from Walton's or the other online vendors... it's not their fault, but the shipping costs about what I'd expect to pay for basic grain, in the bag, at the feed store.
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Old 11/14/09, 10:24 AM
 
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Call both companies and ask about contact info for their truck pool coordinators for your area. That's the way to go. The down side is the long lag time between ordering and receiving.

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I contacted both companies but neither could direct me to a group within a couple of hours from here. Walton has a person in San Antonio but that is a long drive from my place. I need to act while I'm motivated! lol
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Old 11/14/09, 10:27 AM
 
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The Walton pool order came in last week. We can order thru Cynde Wilder at Breaking Bread Together in San Antonio, twice a year. Shipping is 16c/pound right now. If you call her, she can give you contact info for a group closer to you.
I searched yahoo for ,"Breaking Bread Together" no results. How do I contact this place? Maybe they can direct me to a group closer to me.
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Old 11/14/09, 10:40 AM
 
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Depending on how much you order, it might be worth while for you to drive up to Tulsa where you can eliminate the middle man by picking up buckets of organic wheat straight from the farmer. It's pre-frozen so no worries about bugs. You can get it in either bags or plastic lined buckets. The buckets aren't airtight so I buy mylar bags, line the buckets and refill them. pm if you'd like contact info for him.
Tulsa is a little over 4 hours from me so if all else fails I will consider driving up there. What is the name of the outlet or person that you could recommend?
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Old 11/14/09, 10:45 AM
 
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We get grains [barley, oats, corn] from local farmers and mills in 50 pound bags. They range from $5 to $8 per bag.

I get 40 bags at a time, and dump the grains into 55-gallon drums. Inside each drum I put desiccant to suck out the moisture and to make them store well.

We use these grains for ourselves and for our livestock.

By mixing them our livestock feed works out to around $7 per 50-pounds [and some added molasses and salt].

I would recommend that you look at mill prices if you have no nearby farmers.
ET1, the prices are cheap enough !!! Do you freeze the grain for at least a week before storing? I've read on here and other web sites, the grains need to be froze for at least a week or gassed with nitrogen.
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Old 11/14/09, 10:47 AM
 
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Check with your feed stores. You can find wheat and other grains there... Use buckets from your local bakers. I'd love to order a truckload of stuff from Walton's or the other online vendors... it's not their fault, but the shipping costs about what I'd expect to pay for basic grain, in the bag, at the feed store.
yea Texican, I can get corn in my area but not wheat.
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Old 11/14/09, 11:02 AM
 
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Honeyville Grains has a 15% OFF SALE Going right now.,
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I checked Honeyville website, I see a 50# sack of wheat is 46.99!
the shipping is 4.49 so I guess they just add it to the cost of the item when a 50# sack of wheat is only 12.05 at Walton's FEED. I haven't checked out the 15% off yet but I will. Man, those shipping cost are tuff to deal with, of course this is the reason I'm posting today!
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Old 11/14/09, 12:35 PM
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... Do you freeze the grain for at least a week before storing? I've read on here and other web sites, the grains need to be froze for at least a week or gassed with nitrogen.
In times past, when we were buying wheat berries and /or flour in bulk, we did on occasion find that there were bugs in it.

When we found those problems we did take to freezing it, and after a week sifting it.



However since we have began buying fresh whole grains during harvest, we have not had any issues with bugs.

Our first year doing this, we stored the grains in the bags they came in and we had issues with mold. Which is why we began putting the grains into drums, with desiccant and sealing them.

We have also seen that fresh grains are too moist to grind well. They gunk-up our mill.

Whereas after a while sealed with desiccant, the grains become very dry, with the lower moisture content, they no longer gunk-up in the mill.



It has been our experience that without moisture there are no bugs, no spoilage, no mold.

Desiccant can be re-used indefinitely.
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Old 11/14/09, 01:04 PM
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I checked Honeyville website, I see a 50# sack of wheat is 46.99!
the shipping is 4.49 so I guess they just add it to the cost of the item when a 50# sack of wheat is only 12.05 at Walton's FEED. I haven't checked out the 15% off yet but I will. Man, those shipping cost are tuff to deal with, of course this is the reason I'm posting today!
Our local BlueSeal has wheat at $10.25 per 50 pounds.
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Old 11/14/09, 01:06 PM
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Tulsa is a little over 4 hours from me so if all else fails I will consider driving up there. What is the name of the outlet or person that you could recommend?
I get it from Kris at Johns Farm. Their farm is west of Tulsa, but they are great about working with people to meet them in Tulsa for delivery. They have a daughter in Tulsa, so they can leave buckets at her house for people to pickup.
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Old 11/14/09, 03:11 PM
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dsm1@flash.net Cynde has a list of all the groups in TX that order thru her. I'm pretty sure there are groups in your area.
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Old 11/14/09, 03:28 PM
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Blue Chip Group is another mail order place. I have never used them, but I monitor their prices so when I do start buying grains I have a grasp of online prices when I go to the local places. I just noticed their wheat prices have dropped ALLOT since this past spring. They are asking $21.07 for 50#, again I have no clue about shipping costs as I haven't yet gotten my grain mill (although Santa has been notified!) so I haven't placed any orders.
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Old 11/14/09, 03:47 PM
 
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Thank ya'll for the information provided, I will check it out.
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Old 11/14/09, 05:51 PM
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Any Amish or Mennonite in your area? I purchase mine from their stores at a very competitive price. They can even special order stuff if you aren't in a big hurry.
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