How will this flu effect our livestock??

[critterluv]

Ok, I know this is a mix of human, swine and bird flu, my question is what live stock can it effect? I am asuming all poultry and swine but what about others such as rabbits, horses, goats any other livestock that someone might have?

If this thing gets really bad can we expect the gov to come destroy our livestock? what can we do to prep our animals or is there anything?

[Pony]

That's a good question, but I don't know the answer.

Some folks may see this as an opportunity to force NAIS through, I suppose.

I might be one of those folks.

[ChristyACB]

The political effects are far more important than the actual sickness right now.

Apparently, the initial reports of sickness come from the immediate area in mexico where a smithfield feeding operation is located. You can find the info here.

CAFOs are a vector and lab for these, however most CAFOs are away from the burbs and out of the way, making them poor targets for the ineffectual idiot-box led public and their equally ineffectual leaders to take their wrath out on. (Not to mention the campaign money that keeps leaders from targeting the true source.) Instead, it is the healthy and well socialized pig raised by a family for their own uses that will become the target.

In fact, you can be relatively sure that the same chilling effect the avian flu had on cities who were considering allowing city chickens will be felt on those who have small livestock laws.

It's likely to be far more ugly politically than medically here in the U.S.

Sorta' odd how these diseases keep popping up that prevent normal people in normal cities from ever thinking of developing their own food sources, isn't it?

[Pony]

Originally Posted by ChristyACB

The political effects are far more important than the actual sickness right now.

Apparently, the initial reports of sickness come from the immediate area in mexico where a smithfield feeding operation is located. You can find the info here.

CAFOs are a vector and lab for these, however most CAFOs are away from the burbs and out of the way, making them poor targets for the ineffectual idiot-box led public and their equally ineffectual leaders to take their wrath out on. (Not to mention the campaign money that keeps leaders from targeting the true source.) Instead, it is the healthy and well socialized pig raised by a family for their own uses that will become the target.

In fact, you can be relatively sure that the same chilling effect the avian flu had on cities who were considering allowing city chickens will be felt on those who have small livestock laws.

It's likely to be far more ugly politically than medically here in the U.S.

Sorta' odd how these diseases keep popping up that prevent normal people in normal cities from ever thinking of developing their own food sources, isn't it?

Sadly, not at all odd, if you're a person who thinks things through.

Makes me glad we're in MO, and hoping we can get rid of Ms McCaskill next election. The woman is such a pawn, and t-totally without a clue.

[Pony]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,7324452.story

"The Egyptian government says it has begun slaughtering all pigs in the country as a precautionary measure against the possible spread of swine flu."

This is so senseless, stupid, and completely without merit. What in the world are these people thinking?

[ovsfarm]

Well, off the top of my head, I would assume that the Moslem and Jewish populations of Egypt are tickled pink to see the removal of a species that is religiously unclean for them. In general, I think it is a knee-jerk reaction that will create lots of smoke and fury, plenty of emotional tv scenes, possibly some exciting violence, all of which will take the focus off the failing economy and the fact that although well forewarned, the government failed to take any real steps to plan for dealing with pandemic illness.

[Pony]

I doubt there's much of a Jewish population in Egypt; the majority, however, is Muslim, and I think that this is certainly a way for them to "get at" the Christians living there.

And yes, it certainly does take away the attention from the real issues.

Sadly, there are many people in the world (both here and abroad) who believe that you can stop swine flu by killing swine.

That's as silly as thinking you can stop Legionairre's disease by killing off Legionairres.

[unregistered29228]

Note to self: read to end of thread before posting so as not to repeat what last three posters already said.

[Allen W]

http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/ag-i...wine-flu-info/

Purdue Expert: Swine Flu Has No Connection To Today's Pigs
No pigs have been found with swine flu (now known as H1N1) – only humans. But pork producers need to take precautionary measures to protect their herds from being infected with any flu virus, says Sandy Amass, a Purdue University veterinarian.

"Flu viruses are named after the first animal they were found in," says Amass. "This particular strain just happened to be discovered in pigs in 1930, and this is the only reason it's called swine flu. We don't even know if the virus found in humans will infect pigs."

The link is to the rest of the article.

At this time it has only been found in humans, I don't know if other animals besides swine and birds could be affected but I doubt it.

[wendle]

Wonder what this will do to the pork and poultry industry now that it's suspected to have originated from a factory farm and not just some backyard chicken house like in China. Just recently there have been movements to change the living conditions for animals on factory farms.
Are poultry and hogs the only animals with the flu that can be contracted by humans? I've not heard of anything like that in Sheep or goats.

[Stephen in SOKY]

Can the virus transfer human to poultry?

[critterluv]

I am woundering the same, I am soposed to get 2 more orders of poultry in June so Im woundering If I should cancel?

[Stephen in SOKY]

I posted the same question in poultry forum.