Welcome to a dictatorship run nation

Vahomesteaders · #1 11/20/14, 08:58 PM

With the stroke of a pen we became a nation run by a dictator. He bypassed Congress and the constitution to do so. Our only hope is a Republican challenge to the Supreme Court. Sad day indeed. 5 million more votes secured for the party of destruction.

Nevada · #2 11/20/14, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vahomesteaders

With the stroke of a pen we became a nation run by a dictator. He bypassed Congress and the constitution to do so. Our only hope is a Republican challenge to the Supreme Court. Sad day indeed. 5 million more votes secured for the party of destruction.

Hey, his lawyer said it was legal. Isn't that the standard that's been set?

arabian knight · #3 11/20/14, 09:04 PM

Who cares WHAT Obama's lawyer says. ~! Obama has been going against the constitution for so long that any lawyer in Obamas hip pocket will agree with him.
And then there is 25 to 30 tapes that ANYBODY can find Obama says it IS ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO DO--- Just what he did tonight~! Guess that doesn't count eh?

Nevada · #4 11/20/14, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

Who cares WHAT Obama's lawyer says. ~! Obama has been going against the constitution for so long that any lawyer in Obamas hip pocket will agree with him.
And then there is 25 to 30 tapes that ANYBODY can find Obama says it IS ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO DO--- Just what he did tonight~! Guess that doesn't count eh?

As I recall, a previous president's lawyer said it was OK to torture. That seemed to fly just fine, and set one heck of a precedent.

Danaus29 · #5 11/20/14, 09:14 PM

I missed the news. What did he do?

Vahomesteaders · #6 11/20/14, 09:17 PM

He just made all illegal immigrants legal.

MoonRiver · #7 11/20/14, 09:25 PM

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He just made all illegal immigrants legal.

I don't like what he did, but that's not a fair characterization. He ordered that certain illegal immigrants not be deported and could qualify for work permits.

Even if it proves legal, the next President can cancel the Executive Order (although unlikely the next President would have the guts to do so).

The thing is, this is just the 1st step. There are another 6 million or so that will be given safe haven before this is over. Plus there is also the likelihood that Obama will issue a blanket pardon which is completely Constitutional.

Pearl B · #8 11/20/14, 09:26 PM

The illegals here in Az aren't happy with him or his plan. I would also bet that once the illegals are legal, the majority will vote republican, not democratic.

Nevada · #9 11/20/14, 09:27 PM

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He just made all illegal immigrants legal.

Not exactly. He's just not going to deport parents of American citizens who have been here for 5 years or more. But he not going to issue them green cards or give them citizenship.

JJ Grandits · #10 11/21/14, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevada

As I recall, a previous president's lawyer said it was OK to torture. That seemed to fly just fine, and set one heck of a precedent.

Give it a break! You embarass yourself. Our Constituation is being destroyed and you play some sophmoric tit for tat game. Hitler would have loved you.

Tricky Grama · #11 11/21/14, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevada

Hey, his lawyer said it was legal. Isn't that the standard that's been set?

Educate yourself, this has NEVER been done, no precedent, this is illegal, totally against the Constitution.

Tricky Grama · #12 11/21/14, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevada

As I recall, a previous president's lawyer said it was OK to torture. That seemed to fly just fine, and set one heck of a precedent.

That's b/c waterboarding as the navy seals do to each other in training, is NOT torture. Go to YOUR party who OK'ed it all.

Tricky Grama · #13 11/21/14, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonRiver

I don't like what he did, but that's not a fair characterization. He ordered that certain illegal immigrants not be deported and could qualify for work permits.

Even if it proves legal, the next President can cancel the Executive Order (although unlikely the next President would have the guts to do so).

The thing is, this is just the 1st step. There are another 6 million or so that will be given safe haven before this is over. Plus there is also the likelihood that Obama will issue a blanket pardon which is completely Constitutional.

He cannot make laws. Cannot. He cannot change the saws that say illegals cannot work here. He cannot say that employers can hire them. He is NOT king.

simi-steading · #14 11/21/14, 07:21 AM

I read his speech to my wife last night... Man it is amazing when you see the words, instead of just hear them..

I love how he says "we're a nation of laws" but yet he talks about the "criminals" that will be sent back, but the "hard working" families will be given a chance to "get right with the law"

What does he not understand about ANYONE that is here illegally is a "criminal"? Just because they came here to work and not break laws, they still have, just by being here.....

I'm sick of him picking and choosing what laws to enforce or not... Especially when the ones he decides not to enforce are damaging our country.. .

OH.. one place I really got riled up about in his speech, was when he said "our" families go back for generations here in the US.... Sooooo...He's not even from here.... LIAR!

Tricky Grama · #15 11/21/14, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevada

Not exactly. He's just not going to deport parents of American citizens who have been here for 5 years or more. But he not going to issue them green cards or give them citizenship.

So he's gonna give 'em 'blue' cards instead? He's gonna make it 'legal' for illegals to WORK. He cannot. HE cannot make laws. Do you get this?

simi-steading · #16 11/21/14, 07:24 AM

I wanna know what the requisite is for someone that snuck into the country, to be able to prove they've been here 5 years or more..

OH, and again, about sending criminals back, if someone has been here for 5 years and working under the table, then they haven't paid taxes for those 5 years... In the USA, not paying your taxes is a SERIOUS crime that WILL get you arrested... Just ask Wesly Snipes, Willie Nelson, Martha Stewart...

OH, but if you are someone like Al Sharpton, and don't pay your taxes, we can look the other way... You know, since they do such good work bringing the people together..

7thswan · #17 11/21/14, 07:25 AM

and we he just realeased 5 more gitmo prisoners, Come ON IN!

simi-steading · #18 11/21/14, 07:34 AM

I just struck on a PERFECT plan..

Obama says there is no way it's possible to be able to send 5 million people back to their home countries they came from... We don't have the man power or the resources.. .

SO, as retaliation to his new EO, we all stop paying taxes for 5 years... The amount of time he's giving to illegals who didn't pay taxes for those 5 years

The government won't have the resources to arrest all of us.. Maybe then they will see the errors of their ways..

DAVID In Wisconsin · #19 11/21/14, 07:36 AM

The Muslim in chief has sold the US taxpayer out, once again. The man must be looking to start a civil uprising against him and the government.

trulytricia · #20 11/21/14, 07:38 AM

All the rich, the powerful, the elites of the world are cracking out the champagne bottles. Especially the ones south of our border. They don't need to worry about making reforms or sharing their nations wealth. BO has insured them a safety valve and provided them with millions of slaves, the American citizens.