roundup is bad for your guts

[haley1]

This does not sound good, looks life roundup is hard on your guts. This from an open source per reviewed medical journal

http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416


Abstract: Glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup®, is the most popular herbicide used worldwide. The industry asserts it is minimally toxic to humans, but here we argue otherwise. Residues are found in the main foods of the Western diet, comprised primarily of sugar, corn, soy and wheat. Glyphosate's inhibition of cytochrome P450 (CYP) enzymes is an overlooked component of its toxicity to mammals. CYP enzymes play crucial roles in biology, one of which is to detoxify xenobiotics. Thus, glyphosate enhances the damaging effects of other food borne chemical residues and environmental toxins. Negative impact on the body is insidious and manifests slowly over time as inflammation damages cellular systems throughout the body. Here, we show how interference with CYP enzymes acts synergistically with disruption of the biosynthesis of aromatic amino acids by gut bacteria, as well as impairment in serum sulfate transport. Consequences are most of the diseases and conditions associated with a Western diet, which include gastrointestinal disorders, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, depression, autism, infertility, cancer and Alzheimer’s disease. We explain the documented effects of glyphosate and its ability to induce disease, and we show that glyphosate is the “textbook example” of exogenous semiotic entropy: the disruption of homeostasis by environmental toxins.

[RWeThereYet]

Wow . . . I wish I could say I was shocked by the findings, but I think most with a degree of common sense could of told the masses that without any multi-million dollar study required.
Like this one: Diet Soda May Alter Our Gut Microbes And The Risk Of Diabetes

The debate over whether diet sodas are good, bad or just OK for us never seems to end.

Some research suggests zero-calorie drinks can help people cut calories and fend off weight gain.

But in recent years, the idea that artificial sweeteners may trick the brain and lead to "metabolic derangements," as one researcher has theorized, has gained traction, too.

Now, a new study published in the journal Nature introduces a new idea: Diet sodas may alter our gut microbes in a way that increases the risk of metabolic diseases such as Type 2 diabetes — at least in some of us.

In the paper, researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel describe what happened when they fed zero-calorie sweeteners, including saccharin, aspartame and sucralose, to mice.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/201...sk-of-diabetes

[watcher]

Did you read the paper (not the abstract but the actual paper)? Did you research who the two scientist are and their specialities/degrees? Did you check out just what "Entropy" is? Did you do anything other than find something which agreed with your way of thinking and post it?

You might want to read this about the 'study'.

http://www.examiner.com/article/bogu...s-the-internet


Some highlights:

recently published in Entropy, which. . . seems more to specialize on physics. It isn't even indexed by PubMed.

neither Samsel nor Seneff are biologists

Seneff . . . has a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering.

Samsel. . . has done work that seems to be primarily chemical engineering.

important thing to realize is that the authors didn’t conduct any research at all

they refer 5 times to Seralini’s completely discredited paper that claims the GMO crops (and maybe glyphosate we think) cause rat tumors

they refer to autism spectrum disorder (ASD)as being associated with “dysbiosis of the gut,” even though the papers they refer to are based on the discredited and withdrawn papers by Wakefield.

I took me all of 10 minutes to skim the paper and see it had problems and to find out my thought that it was probably bull puckies was correct.

[arabian knight]

One thing about the internet you can be surrounded by misinformation and misleading articles when it comes to such anti this and anti that kind of stuff.

[haley1]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9514851

My mistake, roundup is a healthy and taste drink

[farmerDale]

Bad for your gut. AND it can treat cancer...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749059/

[PrettyPaisley]

Never fear !!!

There's a vaccine for that ! Of course, it's meant to protect kids from autism, but as the brilliant minds of men are finding out, destroying the immune system with yummy Round Up cocktails and copious doses of life saving vaccines can be saved !!!!!

Just add another line or three to Johnny's shot record and they'll get him all fixed up !!!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0424112309.htm

It's like the Calvary ! The biggest, baddest, bravest come riding in to save the day !!!

[PrettyPaisley]

Originally Posted by farmerDale

Bad for your gut. AND it can treat cancer...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749059/

Oh that's a GOOD one !! Of course it kills cancer. What *won't* it kill ?

[Molly Mckee]

You forgot to mention that you have to pay to have your paper published in "Entropy". That alone makes it suspect.

For those of you that think roundup is bad, explain what is better, and reasonable in cost and lets the farmer be as productive. If you lower production for the farmer, you will increase the cost to the consumer. What will happen to the poor and middle class, if the price of food goes dramatically higher? What will happen to our economy if the cost of food doubles or more. What will happen to the worlds poor if we don't have excess food crops to help feed them?

Roundup is relatively safe. While organic is fine as a choice, there are many who can't afford it and can't grow their own. Can we afford to let our crop yields go back to what they were before roundup? You are going to be starting a domino effect if it is pulled off the market without something to replace it, with the cost and effectiveness equal to roundup.

[Yvonne's hubby]

Originally Posted by PrettyPaisley

Oh that's a GOOD one !! Of course it kills cancer. What *won't* it kill ?

GMO crops such as corn and soybeans.

[Trainwrek]

At this point if you don't know that spraying your food with chemicals is bad for your health then no further studies are going to help. It's basically survival of the fittest, if you dont have the common sense to avoid danger then you volunteer to help thin the herd. Enjoy your glyphosate and thank you for your service!

[Yvonne's hubby]

Originally Posted by Trainwrek

At this point if you don't know that spraying your food with chemicals is bad for your health then it's pretty hopeless for you.

I have a feeling that not having any food is kinda rough on a fellers health too. But then I dont have a PHD behind my name so it makes little difference what I think.

[Yvonne's hubby]

For anyone who is interested in facts vs hype... I dont think there is much roundup found on our nations wheat crops.... one of the four crops named by our very well eddycated authors.

[MoonShadows]

I stopped using RoundUp years ago. If I want to kill weeds, I buy a gallon or two of vinegar, put it in my sprayer, and the weeds are wilting and on their way to dying by the end of the day.

Jim

[arabian knight]

But how lONG will THAT last? I spray Roundup around fence lines etc. and it take over two YEARS before I have to treat some places. I Love it. LOL

[RWeThereYet]

Eh, for every one study published saying Roundup is bad, two more pop up saying it is good.

Then there is this aspect:

http://www.biofortified.org/wp-conte...011/02/257.pdf

http://farmandranchfreedom.org/wp-co...2011-acres.pdf

http://farmandranchfreedom.org/gmo-s...hosate-levels/

I am fine with it! Let more and more people eat GMO food that is more and more nutrient deficient leading to poorer and poorer health! A career in health care is where it is! Or Pharmaceuticals.

I just wont be eating it.

[unregistered358967]

Originally Posted by MoonShadows

I stopped using RoundUp years ago. If I want to kill weeds, I buy a gallon or two of vinegar, put it in my sprayer, and the weeds are wilting and on their way to dying by the end of the day.



Jim

We do too. With two kids who play in the yard, a dog and soon to get chickens, I want no part of that stuff. Give me a few weeds any day of the week.

[mrs whodunit]

Originally Posted by MoonShadows

I stopped using RoundUp years ago. If I want to kill weeds, I buy a gallon or two of vinegar, put it in my sprayer, and the weeds are wilting and on their way to dying by the end of the day.

Jim

Yep. And the very next week new leaves are pushing up and growing very healthy.

[Yvonne's hubby]

Originally Posted by MoonShadows

I stopped using RoundUp years ago. If I want to kill weeds, I buy a gallon or two of vinegar, put it in my sprayer, and the weeds are wilting and on their way to dying by the end of the day.

Jim

I have a feeling that cost effectiveness would be a problem if you were trying to control weeds on a thousand acres of corn or soybeans with vinegar... and it may even kill your crops. Roundup does have the advantage of being efficient as well as selective.

[arabian knight]

Originally Posted by RWeThereYet

Eh, for every one study published saying Roundup is bad, two more pop up saying it is good.

Then there is this aspect:

http://www.biofortified.org/wp-conte...011/02/257.pdf

http://farmandranchfreedom.org/wp-co...2011-acres.pdf

http://farmandranchfreedom.org/gmo-s...hosate-levels/

I am fine with it! Let more and more people eat GMO food that is more and more nutrient deficient leading to poorer and poorer health! A career in health care is where it is! Or Pharmaceuticals.

I just wont be eating it.

And yet another misinformed. There is no difference in Nutrient levels in them. Both have just the same amount of nutrients that the body needs and can use.