Standing upon the land

brreitsma · #1 05/09/14, 04:43 PM

I don't know how to link article's here but wondering if anyone has heard of this.
The concept basically is going to the courthouse and going through alphabetical listing of property owners. When you get to either "unknown owner" or "unclaimed land" this is essentially land that has never been registered with the jurisdiction it's in and is almost officially nonexistent. I've heard some states have little or no such parcels and other states have a fair bit. I would imagine any such land would be very isolated and a person would need to be able and willing to live a long ways out.

Basically the article was written primarily for those who have been unable to acquire land and was given as a way to obtain your land without all the hindrances to going the traditional route. It said that in law where something has never been owned rightful possession belongs to the first person to possess it. In this case the article said that land that's never had previous tenents and that there's no recognizable and declared ownership of has the legal right to be possessed by the first person to occupy it.

I doubt I could live as isolated as would be necessary to go this route but for someone who could this seems feasible.

Ozarks Tom · #2 05/09/14, 06:46 PM

I'd like to read the article.

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Harry Chickpea · #3 05/10/14, 12:30 AM

There were a couple of places kinda like that in Vermont. Avery's Gore is the more famous one. I think the other big one was Buell's Gore? For whatever reason they were never incorporated into townships and were no-mans lands in the middle of nowhere with no usable land to speak of.

I wouldn't want to fight title though. Some land is state forest, some national forest, etc.. OTOH, the Feds did grant lots of land to the transcontinental railroad companies to sell to raise funds and traffic for the railroad. I would guess that some of that might have never been sold/occupied.

1shotwade · #4 05/10/14, 08:01 AM

years ago I bought a house in Ohio. The survey showed there was a plot of land(about 1/2 acre) that was not owned by anyone. I did my own title search and found that in 1956 while putting in a new road the property description had changed from "the middle of the creek" to "point to point".Ohio law stated it was the property of the previous owner. This land was "landlocked" and could only be accessed by standing on a bridge and jumping off into the creek.I found the previous owned who was in her 90's and since it was land locked she said if I payed for everything I could have it.It cost me $300 to add 1/2 acre to my property.

Wade

Harry Chickpea · #5 05/10/14, 01:20 PM

Wade, that reminds me of Mark Twain's "Life on the Mississippi" where he commented that due to the constant changing of the course of the river there were towns that started out in Arkansas and ended up in Mississippi.

where I want to · #6 05/10/14, 02:14 PM

Around here there were lots of surveyors whose calculations were rough and ready at best. There is a strip of land between a neighbor's and my place that is at least confusing, seemingly belonging to neither of us. His boundery markers and mine, which are supposedly the same , are actually about 10 to 20 feet apart for about 300 feet.
Better than overlaping I suppose. Anyway, since a large part of that strip is under a huge slash pile, nonone seems much interested in it.

Darren · #7 05/10/14, 02:37 PM

I heard of one parcel like that in this county. There's a legal name for that. The owner of adjoining land recognized from deed descriptions of surrounding parcels that no one owned it. He claimed it through the county commission.

The state of WV ends up owning any property and mineral rights that go unsold for taxes. That is another source of unclaimed property.

brreitsma · #8 05/10/14, 05:48 PM

Ozarks Tom, the site itself is one that many people would find very interesting to say the least. To access the article type, "power of words Richard Anthony", into Google. When you get to the site go to the article for "Standing upon the land".

Ozarks Tom · #9 05/10/14, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brreitsma

Ozarks Tom, the site itself is one that many people would find very interesting to say the least. To access the article type, "power of words Richard Anthony", into Google. When you get to the site go to the article for "Standing upon the land".

Here's the one you're talking about:
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08...-why-not-claim

brreitsma · #10 05/10/14, 09:18 PM

Yes that's the one

willow_girl · #11 05/11/14, 09:01 AM

I think you could waste a lot of time and money chasing down a parcel that probably would end up being so small or poorly-situated that it wouldn't be worth the bother of claiming.

Perhaps that energy could be put to some end more productive than trying to get something for nothing?

notwyse · #12 05/11/14, 09:51 AM

Easier in Arizona to do back tax. Lands that are in default on their taxes can be foreclosed upon by the person who pays the delinquent taxes. This sounds brutal....but there are lands that have been abandoned for years and years. You do have to quiet title the property ....which can cost several thousand.... But sometimes worth it.

Ozarks Tom · #13 05/11/14, 01:41 PM

There's a parcel nearly abutting ours that the locals call "the lost 40". Lots of theories who owns it, it's land locked bottom land very prone to flooding, but it's supposed to be 40 acres fenced on 3 sides by others, with the river on the 4th side.

I don't know what you'd do with it. Every 2" rain you'd have to move livestock.

tarbe · #14 05/11/14, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozarks Tom

Here's the one you're talking about:
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08...-why-not-claim

Unless I am missing his point, it sounds like he does not want to buy land, he does not want a deed or to "register" land, and he does not intend to pay any taxes or rent on land.

But he wants to use the land and gain from the land. He is claiming that as a God-given right?

I sure hope he does not try to do that on land that anyone in the "slave system" has purchased, deeded or otherwise has rights to as recognized within the "slave system"!

I am not buying what he is selling. Sure hope he stays out of northern Ozark County!

If I am misinterpreting what he is saying, someone please correct me!

Tim

Molly Mckee · #15 05/12/14, 12:18 AM

Did you notice that the article you referred to is Australian? The laws are different there, even if this is true in Australia, it's not going to be true here.

tarbe · #16 05/12/14, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Molly Mckee

Did you notice that the article you referred to is Australian? The laws are different there, even if this is true in Australia, it's not going to be true here.

I, for one, did not! I saw references to the U.S., but not Australia.

I feel better now! Less chance this guy will show up on the land I "rent" from the government!