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12/10/13, 04:40 PM
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Nissan Leaf driver charged with stealing electricity
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An electric car owner in Georgia is all charged up after spending the night in jail.
One Saturday in November, Kaveh Kamooneh drove his Nissan Leaf to the Chamblee Middle School near Atlanta to pick up his son from tennis practice, plugging the car in to of the school’s electrical outlets in order to charge its battery while he left it parked, WXIA reports .
When he returned to the vehicle about 20 minutes later, a police officer was waiting by it and told Kamooneh that he was going to charge him with theft of the electricity, but let him leave the scene.
Kamooneh estimates that he used about five cents worth of power while the car was plugged-in.
Eleven days later two police officers showed up at Kamooneh’s home to arrest him for “theft by taking without consent.” He then spent over 15 hours in the DeKalb County jail while being processed.
Chamblee police Sergeant Ernesto Ford told WXIA that he decided to pursue the arrest warrant after investigators determined that Kamooneh didn’t get permission from the school to use the outlet.
“A theft is a theft,” Ford said...
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http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...tcmp=obnetwork
What say you about this? A theft is a theft, right?
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12/10/13, 05:15 PM
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Yes. At the city, If someone's water was turned off and locked for not paying their bill and they hooked up to a neighbors faucet, we charged them with theft of services. Same with someone dumping household garbage in park garbage cans....James
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12/10/13, 05:32 PM
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Yep. Theft is theft. If they let one guy plug his car in, then what's to stop the next hundred from doing exactly the same thing  . It's important to set legal precedent in these kinds of cases to prevent open season on stealing electricity from others.
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12/10/13, 08:07 PM
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I think this shows the power of the Press that lies.
1. He was not going to what his son practice. His son doesn't even go to that school.
2. He had been told before not to use the courts while school is in session so they would be available for the students.
I think He's an entitlement baby that thinks he doesn't need to follow the rules.
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...Mr. Kamooneh had previously been advised he was not allowed on the school tennis courts without permission from the school . This was apparently due to his interfering with the use of the tennis courts previously during school hours....Mr. Kamooneh's son is not a student at the middle school and he was not the one playing tennis. Mr. Kamooneh was taking lessons himself.
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12/10/13, 08:10 PM
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Some places you can plug your car's block heater in - for free, when it's cold.
I guess they could simply tell him (and other's too), who might not have seen it as "stealing", just not to do it again. Probably would do the trick. Certainly not a lot of electric cars around.
But that's not how things work any more, so for sure, it needs to be made into a federal case and of course, he needs to be made an example of.
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12/10/13, 08:30 PM
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The owner of the vehicle got the public to give him $2500 - $7500 in the form of an income tax credit for the purchase of his electric vehicle.
Now everyone agrees a wrong occurred and justice applied.
Why should he not be allowed to plug his vehicle into a public facility for a few pennies worth of free juice? The public has no problem giving him several thousand dollars for simply buying the vehicle. I guess that extra nickle was stepping over the line. The guy is probably a habitual line stepper.
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12/11/13, 05:36 AM
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sounds like they could also add a trespassing charge
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12/11/13, 05:30 PM
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Really? They couldn't just write a ticket and make him pay a fine? It's a much larger waste of public resources to send officers to his house to take him to jail and do all the paperwork. Yeah, there should be a penalty, but jail-time for this offense seems dumb...
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12/11/13, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by plowjockey
Some places you can plug your car's block heater in - for free, when it's cold.
I guess they could simply tell him (and other's too), who might not have seen it as "stealing", just not to do it again. Probably would do the trick. Certainly not a lot of electric cars around.
But that's not how things work any more, so for sure, it needs to be made into a federal case and of course, he needs to be made an example of. 
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See post # 4 ...
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12/11/13, 05:39 PM
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Public school.... paid for by his taxes... and if they didn't want the public to use a public paid for service, then they shouldn't put a plug on the outside of the building.
If he is charged, then I say they should charge the voting machine services for theft for plugging in their voting machines at public schools.. They could use paper...
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12/11/13, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by simi-steading
Public school.... paid for by his taxes... and if they didn't want the public to use a public paid for service, then they shouldn't put a plug on the outside of the building.
If he is charged, then I say they should charge the voting machine services for theft for plugging in their voting machines at public schools.. They could use paper...
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That makes no since ( ya I know ) . the voting machines have permission to be there .This thief was told ~ "having been advised that he was not allowed on the property without permission. Had he complied with that notice none of this would have occurred ~ "
He also brags about routinely stealing elc. from around town .
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12/11/13, 06:26 PM
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HUH? I must have missed something.. he was on the property because his son was there. I don't see where he was told he couldn't be on the property...
I also look at it like he does.. How's it any different than a teacher or student or parent charging their phone while at a play or band concert other function at the school? How is it any different than someone taking a drink out of a water fountain?
It's there for people who use the facility... He was at the facility because his son was there for a sanctioned function.
Now if he was to pull up to the school and didn't have a student there, then yeah, I'd look at it a little different.. Or if it was a business...
Speaking of businesses... The DC Parking Authority pulls up to our building and plugs their Segways into the outlets outside in public areas. The building always hunts them down and tells them to unplug them, yet the police won't do anything about it...
Go figure.. double standards?
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12/11/13, 06:30 PM
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OK.. wait.. I went and read the rest of the article in the link..
Still it was a bogus deal.. trying to make an example out of him because the cops weren't happy with his attitude...
Abuse of power.. on the cops part...
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12/11/13, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by simi-steading
OK.. wait.. I went and read the rest of the article in the link..
Still it was a bogus deal.. trying to make an example out of him because the cops weren't happy with his attitude...
Abuse of power.. on the cops part...
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The dude stole plane and simple ... he should be sharing a cell with this thug.
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12/11/13, 06:43 PM
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Well I see the problem with the book thief.. he has a neck tattoo.. we all know people who tat their necks are thugs..
My wife's son got railroaded at one point.. He got in minor trouble as a kid in a small town.. something about a BB gun and a window... but a few years later as an adult, he got in another little scuff, and ended up with the same judge that didn't like him and made an example out of him and he had to spend a little time in county..
I've seen people who did a WHOLE lot more get noting more than a fine and a little community service..
That's the problem with our "justice" system... too many people that like to throw their weight and power around and use it for personal reasons and don't apply judgement fairly...
Once in the system, they do all they can to keep a person there...
It's all in the name of trying to make someone respect their "Authoritah" as Catman would say..... Conformity sux if you're forced into it by abuse of power..
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12/11/13, 06:49 PM
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Your typing to a guy thats been held up as an example lots and lots of times . Iv never whined about it tho. If I didnt want to spend a couple yrs. in prison maybe I shouldnt have done the things Iv done .... 
figuratively (?) speaking of course
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12/11/13, 06:59 PM
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Believe me.. .I've been in more than my share of trouble, and no stranger to the wrong side of steel doors.. ALTHOUGH, I've been lucky and didn't get hit with any real time... I was lucky and could afford a good lawyer, OR, I was lucky and knew the right people on the justice side...
It's all slanted... We all know only those who get in trouble and serve time are the poor, the unconnected and the trouble makers with attitude... Well.. other than Martha Stewart and Madoff... I can see why Martha got tossed.. No one likes her attitude..
Bernie got tossed because he ripped off the wrong people.. but the bankers keep on getting away with it..
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12/11/13, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by simi-steading
Believe me.. .I've been in more than my share of trouble, and no stranger to the wrong side of steel doors.. ALTHOUGH, I've been lucky and didn't get hit with any real time... I was lucky and could afford a good lawyer, OR, I was lucky and knew the right people on the justice side...
It's all slanted... We all know only those who get in trouble and serve time are the poor, the unconnected and the trouble makers with attitude... Well.. other than Martha Stewart and Madoff... I can see why Martha got tossed.. No one likes her attitude..
Bernie got tossed because he ripped off the wrong people.. but the bankers keep on getting away with it..
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State prisons have lots of " well to do " jailbirds ...what a ya talking about .
You know what I do when the law has issues with me .I yes sir - no sir him to death . One would be surprised how far that gets them
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12/11/13, 07:11 PM
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Hence the reason I've been lucky.. be polite... kiss butt... but ya know what.. I think that's a crock, because it's all about a power play.. your attitude and submissiveness reflects their response... That shouldn't be the way the justice system works. It should be applied fairly for the crime.. not the attitude or amount of submission.
I be if this guy wouldn't have accused the cop of damaging his door nothing would have happened...
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12/11/13, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by simi-steading
Hence the reason I've been lucky.. be polite... kiss butt... but ya know what.. I think that's a crock, because it's all about a power play.. your attitude and submissiveness reflects their response... That shouldn't be the way the justice system works. It should be applied fairly for the crime.. not the attitude or amount of submission.
I be if this guy wouldn't have accused the cop of damaging his door nothing would have happened...
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your use of the word submissive does not apply - Not in my case anyway.
A proper attitude does not mean submissive .
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