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11/19/13, 09:17 AM
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Glyphosate, the cancer killing drug?
Interesting study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23983455
The makers of glyphosate may have stumbled upon something. The herbicide and components of it has been shown to inhibit cancer growth, while leaving normal cells alone. Maybe the popular and effective and benign herbicide, (and much bashed herbicide), will see new uses in cancer therapy?
The sweetness of irony always makes me chuckle.... or more... 
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11/19/13, 09:21 AM
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Are you willing to participate in the testing of this theory?
Maybe easier on a person than Chemo.
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11/19/13, 09:29 AM
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Wouldn't that be something else? Another (potential) miracle of science discovered by accident!
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11/19/13, 09:41 AM
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That would be ironic! I suppose anyone desperate enough for a cure would be willing to be a guinea pig..
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11/19/13, 09:45 AM
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If it can kill you, why wouldn't it kill cancer? Note that it may cause cancer.
Technical Factsheet on: GLYPHOSATE
List of Contaminants
As part of the Drinking Water and Health pages, this fact sheet is part of a larger publication:
National Primary Drinking Water Regulations
Drinking Water Standards
MCLG: 0.7 mg/L
MCL: 0.7 mg/L
HAL(child): 1- to 10- day: 20 mg/L; Longer-term: 1 mg/L
Health Effects Summary
Acute: EPA has found glyphosate to potentially cause the following health effects from acute exposures at levels above the MCL: congestion of the lungs; increased breathing rate. Drinking water levels which are considered "safe" for short-term exposures: For a 10-kg (22 lb.) child
consuming 1 liter of water per day, upto a ten-day exposure to 20 mg/L or up to a 7-year exposure to 1 mg/L.
Chronic: Glyphosate has the potential to cause the following health effects from long-term exposures at
levels above the MCL: kidney damage, reproductive effects.
Cancer: There is inadequate evidence to state whether or not glyphosate has the potential to cause cancer from a lifetime exposure in drinking water.
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11/19/13, 10:08 AM
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The thing is Darren, the study was specific: Glyphosate was observed to be killing/inhibiting cancer cells, while leaving the healthy cells completely alone.
Your lil' blurb there said SPECIFICALLY, that inadequate info is available to state whether glyphosate has the potential to cause cancer. That is scarcely scientific. My study posted is a recent study. The label/factsheet you posted is probably nearing 40 years old...
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11/19/13, 10:24 AM
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The same people who have come to that conclusion, also bought the largest bee research labs and are now doing studies that conclude their chemicals aren't causing colony collapse disorder...
Funny thing.. When big tobacco was doing their own research, they concluded smoking didn't cause cancer...
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11/19/13, 10:28 AM
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Most, if not all, cancer drugs are fatal if given in incorrect dosages. That's why the side effects are often severe. Check out the historical uses of arsenic compounds in medicine. The very properties that make a substance poisonous can be the same properties that make it curative.
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11/19/13, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerDale
The thing is Darren, the study was specific: Glyphosate was observed to be killing/inhibiting cancer cells, while leaving the healthy cells completely alone.
Your lil' blurb there said SPECIFICALLY, that inadequate info is available to state whether glyphosate has the potential to cause cancer. That is scarcely scientific. My study posted is a recent study. The label/factsheet you posted is probably nearing 40 years old...
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So true. Many things rediscovered this way, and are doing great things in research to help people live better and longer lives.
And I guess some will never change their stance on such things, even IF something good does come from said so called E V I L chemicals. LOL
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11/19/13, 10:49 AM
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And yet, I think we all know people who even if facing cancer and a miserable life and even death would refuse to seek medicine. Especially if it was formed from glyphosphate because it is an E V I L chemical. :-(
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11/19/13, 11:14 AM
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And what will you say IF said chemical actually Saves Their lives? And who knows if it "Caused" such a thing in the first place. Just speculation and a whole lot of woo woo. A whole bunch of things if taken in large quantities if taken internal or inhaled can cause harm, THAT is why there are Warning labels on such things. LOL
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11/19/13, 11:46 AM
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I would not get too excited by this report. "Round-up" may kill some cancer cells but then again so does Thalidomide and it is already in use. But those pesky side affects lol!
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11/19/13, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emdeengee
I would not get too excited by this report. "Round-up" may kill some cancer cells but then again so does Thalidomide and it is already in use. But those pesky side affects lol!
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Not that excited about it? Roundup kills cancer! Just thought I would share that with folks is all. It simply confirms what I see in farm country. The ecosystem has been getting healthier, and more diverse. The ungulate population eating crops immediately after glyphosate application, breed like rabbits cuz they are cancer free!!! lol! 
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11/19/13, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerDale
Not that excited about it? Roundup kills cancer! Just thought I would share that with folks is all. It simply confirms what I see in farm country. The ecosystem has been getting healthier, and more diverse. The ungulate population eating crops immediately after glyphosate application, breed like rabbits cuz they are cancer free!!! lol! |
Might wanna check some facts..
"Most of the U.S. counties with the worst declines in life expectancy in recent years are rural, according a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association."
http://www.dailyyonder.com/life-expe...013/07/16/6624
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11/19/13, 12:47 PM
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Yes there is nothing to get excited about - yet. There are many cancer discoveries that just fizzle out or the side affects are too damaging. Every other week there is some big hoopla in the media or even scientific and medical journals. Publish or perish is still the maxim of researchers so they brag long before there is anything to brag about just to keep the money rolling in. And with cancer there is no one cure. What may destroy certain cancer cells may actually cause other cancers to form. As has long been the documented case with Round-up exposure.
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11/19/13, 01:13 PM
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You guys have ZERO sense of humour! lol!
Lighten up... Life is too short for us rural folk who are sprayed with glyphosate especially, to be so frightened of Glyphosate.
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11/19/13, 01:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerDale
Life is too short for us rural folk who are sprayed with glyphosate especially, to be so frightened of Glyphosate. |
I wonder if there's been studies done to see if farmers who use pesticides/herbicides have a higher risk of cancer? 
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11/19/13, 01:48 PM
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Glyphosate is not a pesticide....James
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11/19/13, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less-is-more
I wonder if there's been studies done to see if farmers who use pesticides have a higher risk of cancer? |
Probably by Dr. Huber.
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11/19/13, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwal10
Glyphosate is not a pesticide....James
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correct - It is a broad spectrum, non-selective systemic herbicide.
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