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10/20/13, 02:26 PM
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More news and less propoganda please?
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fea...313544754.html
Has anyone seen any news stations reporting on this yet?
Last edited by Bast; 10/20/13 at 02:27 PM.
Reason: trying to fix the link
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10/20/13, 02:28 PM
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Couldn't access your link.
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10/20/13, 02:41 PM
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They have learned form the best - the American media. All of them.
The "story" - and it's impact, is what is most important.
Whether it is true or not, does not even matter.
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10/20/13, 02:46 PM
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Link worked for me... Owl Gore's old site and the usual propaganda
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10/20/13, 03:14 PM
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Since I don't live there, I would have no idea whether any of this was true or not unless someone from the area reports what they know.
It doesn;t seem to be anything really new so it does make me doubt the story as I think the US press somewhere would be reporting this.
You're from the area. Match what you've been told?
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10/20/13, 03:36 PM
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90 days, half a billion dollars in crude oil pumped into the ocean.....
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10/20/13, 04:33 PM
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Every once in a while I see something about it on internet or some science & nature documentary on TV. I suspect the reason you don't hear more about it in the American media is because people don't want to hear about anything that isn't jumping up and slapping them hard in the face and rocking them on their heels.
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Cake's conclusion is grim. "Here in the estuarine areas, where we have the oysters, I think it'll be a decade or two before we see any recovery."
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Sad to say but I think Cake's conclusion is far too optimistic about recovery.
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10/20/13, 04:54 PM
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A friend of a friend on Facebook feels that the news carried on Al Jazeera is less biased than most media sources, but I haven't checked it out to see for myself. To address the BP Oil Spill issue, I found these articles with a Google search. I deliberately avoided sources that seemed slanted in favor of the ecology:
http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/04/22/w...ulf-spill.html
http://www.wunderground.com/news/bp-...-life-20130926
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...oying-evidence
I'm not familiar with the area that is mentioned in the Al Jazeera piece, but in an effort to verify at least some of the information, I found that Brad Robin is an oysterman and part of the Louisianna Oyster Taskforce. I found this video in which he confirms that the area is slow to recover:
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayun..._sr_talks.html
To throw a questionable source into the mix, I found this website with quotes from Kathy Birren, owner of Hernando Seafood and a few other tidbits that can probably be followed back to their sources. I found a series of youtube videos featuring her, but they are from 2010. While the site seems a bit slanted, it wouldn't take much to find out the procedure used by inspectors to detect oil-tainted seafood. The site also alleges that 100% of gulf shrimp is likely tainted by oil or by Corexit, the chemical that was deployed to "hide" the surface oil.
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/0...-eat-our-food/
From HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3984577.html
From the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/sc...pill.html?_r=0
*An interesting comment that I saw on one of the sites indicated that you have to go to around the 20th page of a Google search to begin to find the horror stories about the BP Oil Spill.
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10/20/13, 07:43 PM
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90 days, half a billion dollars in crude oil pumped into the ocean.....
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Here's a local story, which might be propaganda, also.
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"We are having the best crop in our family's history these last few years," Jurisich, whose family harvests many of P&J’s oysters, told the group on Tuesday aboard his family boat. "We are taking about 1,500 sacks a day. That's 300,000 oysters a day."
“You don’t let Sal tell you there is a shortage of oysters, you hear?” Jurisich told the group, with a jovial laugh.
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http://www.nola.com/environment/inde...stry_cele.html
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10/20/13, 07:53 PM
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If gulf shrimp, now have three eyes, wonder if it is caused, by our own doing, more so, than the oil spill, by BP.
Gulf of Mexico 'Dead Zone'
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Currently, the Gulf of Mexico's dead zone, off the coast of Louisiana and Texas,[14] is the largest hypoxic zone in the United States.[15] The Mississippi River which is the drainage area for 41% of the continental United States, dumps high-nutrient runoff, such as nitrogen and phosphorus, into the Gulf of Mexico. According to a NOAA 2009 fact sheet, "Seventy percent of nutrient loads that cause hypoxia are a result of this vast drainage basin"[16] which includes the heart of U.S. agribusiness, the Midwest. The discharge of treated sewage from urban areas (pop. c 12 million in 2009) combined with agricultural runoff deliver c. 1.7 million tons of potassium and nitrogen into the Gulf of Mexico every year.[16]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zo...27Dead_Zone.27
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10/20/13, 07:55 PM
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Probably a bit of propoganda, considering that in the same article his own brother that he's in business with says it's not true and that the numbers quoted are an exaggeration.
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