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09/27/13, 10:45 PM
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Monsanto Protection Act
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09/27/13, 10:59 PM
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OMG that is a VICTORY ! There is Hope?!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09/28/13, 06:59 AM
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That's excellent and surprising news. You'd think it would have been the House rather than the Senate, though, to actually listen to constituents over powerful special interests. Could you provide a link to an article on the matter?
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09/28/13, 11:07 AM
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And how much difference will this make those Co's already have enough lawyers and congress critters in their pockets to do as they please no matter what the laws say . They can drag a court case out till everyone involved dies off too .
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09/28/13, 12:50 PM
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This won't do much good at all. Want a choice buy, Organic.
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09/30/13, 08:51 AM
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A couple weeks ago, I had an interesting chat with a senior entomology researcher at a nearby university that was holding a public "insect festival" event, mostly for kids but quite interesting with real experts present and wandering around the tables and booths. This fellow was explaining a display and posterboard with Bt genetically modified crops as the prominent theme. I just sort of glanced at the presentation and smiled and wise-cracked "Boooo, Montsanto!" audibly, then started drawing the gentleman out on his work. Whoa, Montsanto sponsors some of the grant money he and his department receive, no surprise for Bt research. Then he went into more detail... that HIS main real interest has been in researching and documenting how natural insect- plant food source systems are in a constant process of insects evolving to become resistant to rather simplistic gm changes like the Bt insertion. That the whole approach doesn't work that well... and that Montsanto in particular has been poo-pooing, in effect, his research results and pretty much trying to steer him away from doing the work at all. I asked if it went as far as attempts at an industry blacklist on academics who didn't follow such "guidance" and he said it wasn't that overt, but that there was a lot of more subtle but real pressure not to rock the boat of their corporate interests.
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09/30/13, 08:57 AM
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free leonard peltier
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Well, if the dang like button worked.. I would have clicked it. 
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09/30/13, 09:01 AM
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Yes!!!
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09/30/13, 12:12 PM
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Well things are improving and hopefully the rest of the world will follow the example of Hungary - they kicked Monsanto out and burned all the GMO corn fields.
They also had the brains to kick out the IMF.
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09/30/13, 12:20 PM
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Well, it's good to know they're actually capable of doing SOMETHING positive.
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09/30/13, 12:29 PM
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Yeppers lets just let the rest of the worlds children stave because they can not get enough foo. This is so crops can grow more and more in yields, but lets not let the rest of the world starve off their kids, the worlds population is too big anyway. And if Monsanto gets slammed the Other chemical companies will just step in Monsanto is by no way the only player in this. But they sure are the ones that are taking the heat from the uninformed and the ill-informed hyped up folks.
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10/02/13, 11:44 AM
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I can't help but believe there is enough people to raise enough food to feed the world, from just watching PBS! 
I can't help but think alot of starvation, is due to politics, and apathy. Who hasn't seen the photos over the last twenty years, off the starving, swollen bellies, and the charitable sourced food for sale at elevated prices in the nations it'd been shipped to!
I really believe the presenter/narrator....Matt Daimon I believe....talking about the starvation in Peru....the ladies selling in the markets were....rotund....the gentlemen healthy enough to plow hillsides behind teams of oxen so fat they they had pones of fat around the base of their tails.......cattle in such desperate countries aren't generally so well fleshed.
I'd make the statement, that if all modern American agriculture is as wasteful as it is in my area, that 5 times the food could be procured by taking care of the land, and the crops it bears. I've seen whole farms planted in sweet potatos, dig a few rows, insurance adjuster, disced up tators, check from goverment. Old man picked up 4 five gallon buckets of no.1 sweet potatos on about 20' of 2 rows. The folks picking up the potatos had said they were done, sitting under shade trees. The farmer was showing around his checks that year....ove 3/4 million. They were potatos showing through the soil all winter long! Wasted. How many people would 1000 acres of sweet potatos helped. That's just one person, one place in the USA. How many more......?
The government even pushed the use of GMO......subsidies if you no-till, to the point of local farmers saying they could buy the equipment with three years of susbsidies! How many of you would like to own a business that the Goverment would back up purchasers purchasing power for your products?
There is no reason, with the infrastructure in place today, that anyone on this earth should lay down at night hungry. Greed, jealousy, political power, and ignorance cause alot of folks to have pinching bellies and it's needless.
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10/02/13, 12:05 PM
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"Yeppers lets just let the rest of the worlds children stave because they can not get enough foo. This is so crops can grow more and more in yields,"
If GMOs are such a wonderful thing why aren't the BT companies jumping at the opportunity to label their products rather than fighting tooth and nail to keep people from knowing what is in their food.
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10/02/13, 12:07 PM
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There is no need to things that are gmo are already listed that is why. Don't want to buy gmo food. Read THE label and buy organic simple as that.
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10/02/13, 12:28 PM
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There is no need to things that are gmo are already listed that is why. Don't want to buy gmo food. Read THE label and buy organic simple as that.
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I guess I have never seen a label with "gmo inside" listed on it, do you have a picture of one with it listed on the label?
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10/02/13, 03:34 PM
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I guess I have never seen a label with "gmo inside" listed on it, do you have a picture of one with it listed on the label?
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The vast majority of corn, soybeans, sugar beets and canola are GMO. If the package has those ingredients, expect it to contain mostly GMO. However, if you want to avoid mainstream food, look for the organic label. That is a sure way to buy what you want and avoid what you don't want.
BTW, no-till saves tons of top soil per acre each year.
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10/02/13, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arabian knight
Yeppers lets just let the rest of the worlds children stave because they can not get enough foo. This is so crops can grow more and more in yields, but lets not let the rest of the world starve off their kids, the worlds population is too big anyway.
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Well it's an ugly truth, but it's the truth nonetheless. There are more mouths than the earth can sustainably feed now. This will self-correct at some point in the future. Maybe sooner than later.
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10/03/13, 12:36 PM
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when they finally do get around to passing a budget, any bet on weither they sneak the protection back into the budjget?
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10/04/13, 07:27 PM
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I just look for this label: 
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