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09/16/13, 04:07 PM
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that's pretty interesting and does make sense.
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09/16/13, 04:35 PM
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My parents were depression babies and when they worked they sweated bullets. Even as a kid I could see the fatigue. Their standard of living was actually pretty high, but sometimes my Dad worked 90 hour weeks.
DH and I did not work QUITE so hard and we accepted a lower standard of living. Mind, we worked HARD, just not as hard as my folks did. I wonder, did my kids think we were working hard at all?
Today my daughter called in a semi panic because she could not get a ride to her doctors, the doctor would not release pills until she saw her, and the doctors office was an entire 2 miles away! The idea of walking had honestly not occurred to her! Mind, she can shop at the mall for hours but walking to the doctors??? What a NOVEL idea!
Like most parents here I tried hard to raise her to be self-reliant: as of today I wonder if her teenaged self even NOTICED that DH and I were working hard! Because if she did not realize we were working hard, what kind of expectations does she have for her own life??????
I have no conclusions, I am just pondering and rambling. Kids very often do not tune into what their parents are doing: I wonder what my daughter noticed about us?
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09/16/13, 04:37 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Its appears the author took the long way around to get to the meat of the matter.... Lucy is unhappy coz shes a spoilt brat.
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09/16/13, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terri
Today my daughter called in a semi panic because she could not get a ride to her doctors, the doctor would not release pills until she saw her, and the doctors office was an entire 2 miles away! The idea of walking had honestly not occurred to her! Mind, she can shop at the mall for hours but walking to the doctors??? What a NOVEL idea!
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ROTFLOL - I recall walking more than 6 miles to go swimming at the Y when I was a kid. Of course nowadays I would not let my child do that because it isn't safe. Then I guess that leads to an adult who never thinks of it on her own.
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09/16/13, 05:07 PM
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..where do YOU look?
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You're unhappy because your expectations are too high.
Hey, a lot of people spend a FORTUNE to hear a counselor say exactly that. You got it on Huffpo for free!
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09/16/13, 07:37 PM
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We missed the point, as usual.
Lucy is not the problem, her baby boomer parents are, or were.
They did not grow up during the great depression. They experienced huge economic growth, low taxes, lows cost for everything. Graduate from college, a great job is waiting. Otherwise, get an awesome factory job. They had IBM, Xerox, Caterpillar, GM.
They saw no reason, the fun and prosperity would not continue forever, so their gave Lucy a very soft life, since for the most part, that's all that they ever knew themselves.
Now the rules of the game have changed - completely, so instead of graduating into a great life-long career, or that 35 year stint, on the assembly line at Ford, it's a cold, world of cut-throat corporation, temp factory positions and constant layoffs. Taxes are huge. Prices for everything is huge. Good wages and benefits, nearly non-existent.
Lucy is totally unequipped to handle all this, but somehow, it's all her fault.
Sound's about right.
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09/16/13, 09:25 PM
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 as I review the lower than I projected return on my investments for August and make plans on what other income generation streams I will follow and where I will trim corners for Sept and Oct.
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09/17/13, 06:22 AM
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We're boomers, and our son had a soft, easy childhood. While not rich, we were always comfortable. My son is realistic, hard-working, and thrifty. As a matter of fact, he has a lot more of those properties than I did at his age. Why? I have no idea. My wife and I are hard-working. He went to a private Christian school from pre-K through high school. Somewhere along the way, he picked up a good work ethic and values. All of his friends that he went to school with are similar, so I credit the school. Add to that the fact the parents who scrimp and save to put their kids through a private school are more inclined to be heavily involved with their children. There ARE rich folks who drop their kids off at private school and expect the school to raise them, but those aren't the kinds of parents I'm talking about.
I was a manager for 5 years, and the two biggest problems we encountered hiring young people is finding people who will A) Pass a drug screen, and B) Put in a full day's work; every day.
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09/17/13, 08:17 AM
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All kids are different.
I have one that always finds the best job, the best deal, the right way to do it, whatever IT is. I have one that knows nothing but to put her shoulder against the wheel and push until something gives 'way, and that something is never her.
I have one whose greatest strength AND most terrible weakness is the inclination to befreind folks. Her life is like a roller coaster. She is incredibly tough and able to sustain herself through the things people do to her and come back working harder than ever, with only the dimmest light at the end of the tunnell that most of us would consider an optical illusion.
I do NOT, however, have one who would panic at the thought of walking a 4 mile round trip to pick up meds. THAT is a different kind of isssue.......Joe
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09/17/13, 08:26 AM
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Since DD works on her feet, I do not think that she would panic at the thought of walking 4 miles either.
The idea had simply never occured to her, LOL!
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09/17/13, 08:53 AM
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Lucy is not the problem, her baby boomer parents are, or were.
They did not grow up during the great depression.
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My parents did. They taught me that life was tough, and often not fair, and you'd better be prepared to deal with it. That lesson served me well.
Joy, though ... that I had to discover on my own.
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09/17/13, 06:16 PM
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Willow - you have had your ups and downs over the years, but I am glad you have found joy.
And when are you going to post some pics of your lovely ladies? (cows..I mean)?
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09/18/13, 12:29 AM
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That whole "You're Special" section could have been written about my youngest brother...seriously!
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09/18/13, 09:43 AM
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I agree with Pancho
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I think the article makes a lot of valid points, however, we have to remember that Gen Y was born into a world that was laid out by and heavily affected by the 2 generations before them. If a Gen Y person has the mindset portrayed in the article, it is because society and parents raised them that way, then they were thrust into an economy where people raised that way are set up to fail.
It is easy to compartmentalize people into neat little packages, but it's important to look deeper, and not just blame and stereotype them.
I for one, sure am glad that I was born before Gen-Y.
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09/18/13, 12:50 PM
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that is why I like the 11 rules of bill gates. it is urban legend that he wrote them but the advise is still good.
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09/24/13, 12:56 PM
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? 11 rules of Bill Gates? Can you post them? I never heard them.
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09/24/13, 01:29 PM
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Waste of bandwidth
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Gen Y kids are usually unhappy because I keep yelling at them to get the heck out of my yard.
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09/24/13, 01:34 PM
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I finished the article finally. Written by another self righteous author who doesn't get out much and probably never really put in a day of hard work in his life. He's the entitlement poster child, not the other way around.The Gen Y's I work with would jap slap him till he was more stupid than he is already and then carry his lard body up the mountain to the ambulance. Since this post is about stereotypes I thought it was prudent to throw out a few of my own.
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09/24/13, 02:30 PM
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It occurs to me . . .
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Originally Posted by Oggie
Gen Y kids are usually unhappy because I keep yelling at them to get the heck out of my yard.
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that they must be 'cat' people . . . ?
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