If I can pick my sex devoid of biology

kasilofhome · #1 08/27/13, 10:01 PM

If I can pick my sex even when my "choice" could be a mix match of my parts ---------------when will I get to choose what race I "feel" that I am more in tuned to? I mean why should my genedics interfer with my wants?

Wolfy-hound · #2 08/27/13, 10:08 PM

Well, a lot of people kind of do that.

I've seen lighter skinned people who did not really look Caucasion say they were white. I've seen the same level of light skinned people say they were black, or Native American, Asian-American, etc.

I like to claim my Minorcan ancestry. I don't look like a classic Minorcan though. I am descended directly from the first ones to come over here. But I look so white I should qualify as "clear".

I really don't care what you would like to call yourself. As far as I'm concerned if you want to say you are a female Asian, that's fine. If you seem to resemble a large Black man, I won't say anything. None of my business.

Harry Chickpea · #3 08/27/13, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kasilofhome

If I can pick my sex even when my "choice" could be a mix match of my parts ---------------when will I get to choose what race I "feel" that I am more in tuned to? I mean why should my genedics interfer with my wants?

You are SO lucky you did not post that on usenet or say it in public.

Perhaps the answer is that you may CALL yourself whatever you want to. I suspect that your problem will be a variation of the old Woody Allen nugget. He stated that he would never want to be a member of any group that would accept him. Saying any more than that would be unkind. I am curious though, WHICH "race" would you like to be part of? Are you dissatisfied with the one you were born into?

kasilofhome · #4 08/28/13, 12:29 AM

Locally it is a group debate and I find it it interesting in that many who scoff at it explained that allowing a person to pick and choose a race due only a personal wish or dream or want when it clearling in many cases defies the organic phyical expression of a persons dna ==Is silly and a mistake to encourage. Yet the stammering starts when relating the ablity to choose race just as sex identy is now a choice. Both are organic phyical expression of a person dna and we have shifted to accepting the freedom of choice for sex so where does the window of accecpted logic end at rediculesness door stop when we keep redefining what something is based on what someone wants it to be.

Would racial divide end if race was a matter of choice and flexablity in allowing a person the freedom to reasign what classification of race they were when asked---would that freedom end racism? I believe it would as ones race would become documentedly irrelevent. --Due to all persons having the right to evoled at any time to any race lable.

in as much as many learned that 1 plus 4 is five is a fact. yet it that former fact-- that does not embrass those who came up with the answer being 6 with afformation of sucess thus telling a person that the facts do not support your position is now hatefull

Harry Chickpea · #5 08/28/13, 12:58 AM

The "rules" are simply not as cut and dried as you might like. Look up the word "chimera" and read about some of the expressions of that condition. If you find some old abnormal psychology books, you may find photographic examples of hemaphrodism.

Expression of "racial" mix can also be idiosyncratic. There are numerous books covering the idea of "passing" as a member of a different ethnic type:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing...al_identity%29

http://old.post-gazette.com/lifestyl...in1026fnp2.asp

In answer to the idea that race might no longer be an issue - humans seem hardwired into an "us vs. them" mentality. If it isn't race, it'll be religion, football team, or some other silly demarcation.

willow_girl · #6 08/28/13, 07:07 AM

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when will I get to choose what race I "feel" that I am more in tuned to?

A lot of people do that with their (perhaps imaginary) Native American ancestry.

Real Indians refer to them as part of the Wannabe tribe ...

plowjockey · #7 08/28/13, 07:11 AM

Proclaiming one's "race", or making a call, as to someone else's, is really mostly just about "control", little else.

Many loved to use that "favorite word", to describe candidate Obama. Once elected, he now calls himself black. Now, many insist (at least publicly) he be considered "bi racial"

Race is just a tool, to position one's self, or to go after someone else, IMO.

kasilofhome · #8 08/28/13, 10:13 AM

Plow if that is true than would racial disrimination laws simply be control with out violince?

What started this talk locally was how Manning is being refered to as a female all over the news.

plowjockey · #9 08/28/13, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kasilofhome

Plow if that is true than would racial disrimination laws simply be control with out violince?

What started this talk locally was how Manning is being refered to as a female all over the news.

Sort of.

Laws are made when people can't/won't do the right thing on their own.

Anytime, people look at race , it's all about looking at control, because now a "difference" is added to the equation. Other it's just people.

It goes both ways, also.

Sorry i missed your point, i guess I don't consider race and human sexuality the least bit related.

Human sexuality is infinetly more complex .

NoClue · #10 08/28/13, 12:27 PM

For several decades, I marked race and ethnicity boxes randomly on any form that had one, including government and military forms.

Only rarely was I ever questioned, and never once did I have to do a form over or have on refused.

kasilofhome · #11 08/28/13, 02:33 PM

I understand that the Obama health insurance plan application requires noting ones race to proceed to the next round of question and that your are threatened with prujury for falsifing the form--somehow I thing the charge of perjury against a privated person not in ranking positions of government would REALLY carry weight.

More governmental forms are requiring race info --and when one understands that the person involed with ordering ammo for the government has publicly on internet made threats to a certain race to include killing persons of that race. ---Honestly I really wish his job had been ordering cotton balls or jello. ---Anything but putting such a hatefull racist person incharge of any aspect of weapontry.

I wonder why is it even a factor for the government to need to know a persons race. If not to cause a division.

doingitmyself · #12 08/28/13, 03:34 PM

Satire button on.

Not only do i want to be able to chose, i want to be able to reverse my choice and go with the most profitable version at the moment. I mean currently there are perks for certain ethnic persuasions.

Well, i guess i want to be like a chameleon and change color/groups with the politics of this wonderful country that give to the poor and takes from the group I'm currently in.

Satire button off.