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Old 08/22/13, 09:31 PM
 
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Inrerracial violence overwhelmingly black on white

Pat Buchanan brings up a good point. We see at least one report of black on white violence every day and it rarely makes a blurb on national news but a case of white on black violence, rare as they are, early always makes the news. Are we at the point where we just expect black on white violence as the norm?

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Old 08/23/13, 02:26 AM
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Pat Buchanan brings up a good point. We see at least one report of black on white violence every day and it rarely makes a blurb on national news but a case of white on black violence, rare as they are, early always makes the news. Are we at the point where we just expect black on white violence as the norm?

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Well when the mainstream media won't report it, Obama doesn't comment on it, or compare His racist self to the victims likeness.

Plus Jackson nor Sharpton aren't buying any plane tickets to go stir up a pot of racist stew,you can bet your last dollar the victim ain't black.

"Are we at the point where we just expect black on white violence as the norm?"I wouldn't call it the norm,its more like not expecting the racist's mentioned above to give a hoot unless the victim's are black.Now that's the norm.

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Old 08/23/13, 07:47 AM
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Like I said in the thread about the 89 y/o man beaten to death, there needs to be an all out war on young thugs...NOW.
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Old 08/23/13, 08:15 AM
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The trend isn't going to stop especially since the truth about the Zimmerman-Martin incident wasn't mentioned by most of the media. Trayvon is now being used as an excuse for BoW violence.

It's beyond sad when an 89 year old veteran who put his life on the line for this country met his end at the hands of thugs. It isn't going to get any better.

You have to be aware and be prepared. You can't count on anyone else to protect you. Those that think their support of liberal causes will spare them, may be in for a lethal awakening. This country's policies and the continuing deterioration in legal economic opportunity has created a feral group that has no regard for human life.
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The trend isn't going to stop especially since the truth about the Zimmerman-Martin incident wasn't mentioned by most of the media. Trayvon is now being used as an excuse for BoW violence.

It's beyond sad when an 89 year old veteran who put his life on the line for this country met his end at the hands of thugs. It isn't going to get any better.

You have to be aware and be prepared. You can't count on anyone else to protect you. Those that think their support of liberal causes will spare them, may be in for a lethal awakening. This country's policies and the continuing deterioration in legal economic opportunity has created a feral group that has no regard for human life.
Very true but while these black on white attacks get little or no press coverage, the next Bernie Getz who decides he is not going to be one of their victims will be crucified by the national media.
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
Define the economic war on blacks? you mean the higher unemployment among blacks? or the lack of hiring for felons which affects all races equally? or the lack of education in the inner city?

I think the welfare nation that has been created by several administrations in the inner city has a far greater impact on keeping minorities in poverty than anything. The policies of this current administration, much like the NDAA and Patriot act have furthered the problem.

I would say the liberals who believe blacks are incapable of working themselves out of poverty and crime riddled neighborhoods so keep them on the government teat, much like the government has done to millions of native Americans over the centuries is at a greater fault than any imagined war by CEO's or joe and tom down the street, which begs me to ask, is it only the christian white males that are soldiers in this economic war on blacks or is it the gay men, the women etc. that happen to be white in it also? is this the same as the war on women?

Please enlighten us, as a white middle aged, non religious conservative, lower middle class male I need to know what wars I am fighting and what I am being held accountable for.

and as to this part "criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty" of your line, where is this group of evil mastermind white masters with guns to the head of black youth forcing them to commit crimes? unemployment is up across all of america, poverty is up in all demographics, yet crime overall is DOWN in America, but is rising surprisingly fast int he black on white and black on black areas.
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Old 08/23/13, 09:05 AM
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
Seriously? Seriously? Seriously?

How about the lack of fathers in many (most?) black families, that doesn't have an impact?

Obviously Blacks have the ability to get an education and get jobs we have a black president after all.
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
Are you by chance talking about the borders being left wide open? About the millions of illegals here taking advantage? About the importing of poor people from around the world brought here to be dependents further destroying the country?
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I think that so many kids are on the streets because of lack of parental involvement. In a lot of cases, Mom has to work and there is no involvement from Dad. He is long gone after the kids are born. Lots of times there are other children in the family fathered by someone else. Educated kids (no matter what color) are rarely involved in crime.
Middle Schools and High Schools require wearing uniforms in lots of places now in the south. They are simple. No brands can show so you buy everything you need at Walmart. Boys are required to wear belts and shirts tucked in. Same for girls. Shorts and skirts have to be at least knee length. Some kids drop out rather than wear the uniforms. They hang around the schools until they are run off and they are getting into trouble with their friends who are not in school.
Kids need parents who will encourage them to make good grades, support them in playing sports, band, or other school related activities.
Tired kids who are busy don't have time to get bored. The main thing is that they need to get that high school diploma. Without it, there are no job opportunities.
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Old 08/23/13, 09:45 AM
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
They got their "hope and change".
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Old 08/23/13, 10:07 AM
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Kids need parents who will encourage them to make good grades, support them in playing sports, band, or other school related activities.
Tired kids who are busy don't have time to get bored. The main thing is that they need to get that high school diploma. Without it, there are no job opportunities.
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Old 08/23/13, 10:08 AM
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And Shorty's death was not caused by gun violence .... he was beaten with flashlights !!!

So much for guns being the cause.
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Old 08/23/13, 10:18 AM
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
Your quote perfectly illustrates what is wrong with America when it comes to the liberal mindset and their refusal to examine a problem objectively. Good grief.
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Old 08/23/13, 10:29 AM
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
I'm so glad someone said this- it certainly was true in large part for most of our history.

However, using that to excuse for racist violence now is the one thing that is sure to perpetuate racial violence forever. Beside being wrong morally.

What black people may see as justice for past crimes is really just revenge- and revenge against people who have done nothing except be a member of a race that is hated will lead only escalating vengence when the abused race seeks its own defense.

There is only one path to counter the natural tendency of people to racism and that is strict application of the same standards of behavior to all sides. Anything else will make for a race war. All it takes is a look at many other groups all over the world that are trapped in endless outbursts of revenge to see that leads to a miserable life for all.

And anyone who excuses or turns a blind eye to racism anywhere are just as guilty as the racists themselves. Al Sharpton may get some secret thrill from watching black people kill whites as a recreational sport but, if he can not find the moral courage to stand against it, he is just as guilty as any white KKK member.
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Old 08/23/13, 02:22 PM
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
Long time ago when DH was stationed overseas, they had a documentary on blacks in the US on the local TV. One of the big stations.They interviewed a black man, who said, that blacks have it extra hard in the US. In order to succeed at anything they have to be at least twice as good as a white person to be accepted.
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Long time ago when DH was stationed overseas, they had a documentary on blacks in the US on the local TV. One of the big stations.They interviewed a black man, who said, that blacks have it extra hard in the US. In order to succeed at anything they have to be at least twice as good as a white person to be accepted.
Well then, I guess that resolves that! I mean. if a guy says that on tv, it must be true, right?

What I've seen overwhelmingly in 3 different states is whites bending over for blacks. In one place (area had an overwhelmingly white population FYI) it was company policy where I worked that at least 1 qualified black person had to be interviewed for every job opening - we actually had a hard time filling jobs sometimes, because we'd have a few excellent applicants but no blacks would apply and we couldn't hire someone until we interviewed a qualified black person.

Imagine the outrage if, in largely black-populated areas, they made it a requirement that one qualified white person had to be interviewed for every job opening!

I've also seen first-hand how much harder it is to fire a black person - especially if every time they're spoken to about crappy job performance they scream "racism!!". I'm sorry, but if you did your job perfectly during your 90-day probationary period (so you are fully capable of doing it!) but then you start doing less than half the work you were doing before, spending all day talking on your cell phone and surfing the internet while the rest of us pick up your slack, you SHOULD get fired regardless of what color you are. I've seen whites do this, and they all got written up and threatened with termination; they either got it together and kept the job or got fired. The blacks who did the same got away with it because the bosses were afraid to fire them for fear of being sued or slaughtered in the press for being racist. It's not racist to expect someone to do the work they're getting paid to do IMHO.

I've seen tons of examples of blacks getting preferential treatment in the workplace over whites. The only times I've ever seen whites get preferential treatment was when they were related to the boss (or dating her daughter, in one case )

I'm sorry but I trust my own experiences over what some random Joe on the street says on tv. YMMV
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I think the economic war of whites on blacks surpasses random acts of violence with a sustained, criminal violence keeping minorities in poverty, jobless, without much of a hope of change.
I think it is a series of life choices that leads to sustained poverty, joblessness, and no hope. And bad life choices will effect a white person just as much as they will a black one. Ever heard the term "white trash" - that's because there are white people who make stupid life choices too. There are certain factors in a person's life that give them a much higher chance of always being broke. Try looking at the person's actions rather than the color of their skin and you might find a real answer to the problem.

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And might I remind you there are black people all across America in CEO offices and HIGH ranking political offices. There are black business owners, Pastors, Philanthropists, and just about any other vocation you can imagine. This seems to contradict the idea that it is only the color of the skin that "keeps them in poverty with no hope" to paraphrase.

I have heard the argument that you have to join a gang to survive in the inner city, or you can't do your school work or you will get beat up, and any number of other excuses for dropping out, shooting up, or shooting someone. Here is the truth. If you don't want to live that life then pack up your crap and get out of that environment. Remember how folks used to throw all their stuff in a car and go somewhere else to live - you can still do that! Yup, it is hard to relocate and start over. But is it harder than losing all your children to gang violence, drugs or jail? I would have to say NO.
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There's a way for these young thugs to stop feeling oppressed.
1) Get away from negative people.
2) Go back to school, and this time learn something.
3) Take any job you can get, show up on time, and do your best.
4) Expect to get only what you earn, but be proud of what you earned.
5) Understand the only person holding you down is you.

In my 35+ years in the construction business I've seen lots of people rise from laborer to foreman, a few into their own businesses. They didn't do it by whining about being oppressed.
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There's a way for these young thugs to stop feeling oppressed.
1) Get away from negative people.
2) Go back to school, and this time learn something.
3) Take any job you can get, show up on time, and do your best.
4) Expect to get only what you earn, but be proud of what you earned.
5) Understand the only person holding you down is you.

In my 35+ years in the construction business I've seen lots of people rise from laborer to foreman, a few into their own businesses. They didn't do it by whining about being oppressed.
How many times can I click "like" on this? So well said. People of all colors choose to play victim rather than getting up every morning and actually doing something to improve their situation. When you have battered women who can sneak out of their house with nothing but the clothes on their backs and their kids, travel across the country to some little town away from all relatives or friends (because their abuser would think to look there) and start over from scratch - then why can't anybody else?

On the opposite side of that coin we have a distant relative (let me add that she is White) that has been a leech on the family's butt all her life. Now she is married to another leech and has two children that our dear tax payers support. She can't buy diapers for her baby, but she can get that new tattoo. She can't buy food, but they both smoke, drink, and have all kinds of piercings. She makes every effort to slur words, use slang, and otherwise mangle the english language when she speaks or writes. Yet she is a poor sad victim of society because she cannot find a job.

I do not understand how people can't look at their own life decisions and figure out that they are the sole obstacle in their own way.
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