Australian Chris Lane killing suspect "time to start taken life'

[gapeach]

Suspect in killing of Australian Chris Lane tweeted: 'time to start taken life's'

By Randi Kaye, Hilary Whiteman and Josh Levs, CNN
Thu August 22, 2013Thu August 22, 2013 Christopher Lane, from Australia, was gunned down in Duncan, Oklahoma, while he was out jogging last week. Police say he was killed by three teens who said they had nothing better to do. Police have now charged the three teens in Lane's death.

CNN) -- One of the Oklahoma teenagers accused of killing 23-year-old Australian baseball player Christopher Lane had previously posted images online showing himself posing with guns and wads of cash. And three days before what police call the indiscriminate shooting, the suspect, 15-year-old James Edwards Jr., tweeted, "With my EDITED OUT when it's time to start taken life's" -- a line from the Chief Keef rap song, "I Don't Like."
Back in April, he tweeted, "90% of white ppl (people) are nasty. #HATE THEM."
Police in the town of Duncan have charged Edwards and Chancey Luna, 16, as adults with first degree felony murder, said Kaylee Chandler, a Stephens County court clerk.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justic...illed-oklahoma




This should be a hate crime and President Obama should make a sympathy statement to Australia and this young man's parents/girlfriend. Just my opinion.

[lordoftheweeds]

You know it's the white mans fault

[Tiempo]

Originally Posted by lordoftheweeds

You know it's the white mans fault

In part, it was.

From the op's news link

Police say it was Jones who ultimately told them, "We were bored and didn't have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody."
The police affidavit lists Edwards and Chancey as black, and Jones as white.

[Tabitha]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/bl...racist-tweets/

according to this they showed gang colors and signs. One claimed to have hit five whites after the Zimmerman case. Maybe he is just bragging. Claiming on line that he hates whites...etc.

[MO_cows]

It's a real tragedy and a black eye, no pun intended, for America on the world stage, too.

All teenagers seem to go thru that phase where they are just looking for trouble/excitement. And lots of bad choices get made. But to actually shoot someone....for entertainment? It boggles the mind.

[gapeach]

"“They followed him, shot him in the back and drove off,”". That pretty much says it. What has happened to these young people who have no regard for human life?
I do think it is embarrassing that our President has not said anything at all about this horrible murder of this Australian college baseball player.

[gapeach]

Originally Posted by Tiempo

In part, it was.

From the op's news link

I have also read that he is bi-racial. Who knows without a DNA test? Regardless, it is a horrific gunning down of an innocent young man who was in this country to get an education and had a scholarship to play baseball here.
His parents are heart broken and this is really an international incident.

[poppy]

Originally Posted by Tiempo

In part, it was.

From the op's news link

He isn't all white. Easy to tell from his picture. Makes no difference though, they should all be put to death.

[J.T.M.]

Like Peachy says , this is a international incident. I talk to people all over the world ,everyday , This is really starting to boil over

[poppy]

Originally Posted by J.T.M.

Like Peachy says , this is a international incident. I talk to people all over the world ,everyday , This is really starting to boil over

Good. Other countries have a right to see what this administration is turning our country into. Maybe they will be more careful who they elect than we were.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by poppy

Good. Other countries have a right to see what this administration is turning our country into. Maybe they will be more careful who they elect than we were.

But that's not what's happening. They are totally outraged because of the US policy on gun control and want the US to invoke much more control of guns and weapons. They are actually endorsing Obama's efforts for more gun control.

[J.T.M.]

Originally Posted by Karen

But that's not what's happening. They are totally outraged because of the US policy on gun control and want the US to invoke much more control of guns and weapons. They are actually endorsing Obama's efforts for more gun control.

She who wields the ban hammer speaks correctly .

[gapeach]

It is not the guns, it is the way that some kids are raised with no compassion for animal or human life. Blaming guns is an excuse. None of these kids was old enough to own a gun.
It makes my heart break to think about this murdered boy and his family, his girlfriend. It was a senseless homicide.
Vermont with probably the laxest gun laws in the country where you can carry a concealed handgun with no permit required consistently has one of the lowest homicide rates in the country just 1.3 per 100,000 in 2011, Strange that if gun availability is the issue the state with arguably the easiest availability in the whole country consistently manages one of the lowest homicide rates in the country (tied for 2nd lowest in 2011).
Switzerland does not have a national military, but instead issues assault rifles to men between the ages of 20-30, and trains them on how to use. Most of these guns are kept in the private homes, yet Switzerland enjoys one of the lowest homicide rates in the civilized world.

[FeralFemale]

Exactly what new gun law would have prevented this killing? The teens were already illegaly in possession of a gun. That law didn't stop the killing.

Shall we ban all guns? Let's pretend that would work and that a ban would magically eliminate criminals like these from having guns. What would have stopped them from killing this young man some other way? Like running him over with the car they were in?

I really wish people would start looking at the real problem. Millions of people own guns and never get bored and decide to shoot someone down in cold blood. Which means the problem is with the person holding the gun, not the gun.

[Tabitha]

Originally Posted by poppy

Good. Other countries have a right to see what this administration is turning our country into. Maybe they will be more careful who they elect than we were.

They think it is due to our gun laws. Naively they think if we had no guns, we would have no crime.

[wendle]

Why don't they show pictures of the killers when it's a black on white hate crime?

[poppy]

Originally Posted by Karen

But that's not what's happening. They are totally outraged because of the US policy on gun control and want the US to invoke much more control of guns and weapons. They are actually endorsing Obama's efforts for more gun control.

For whatever reason, some are warning their citizens not to visit the US. Perhaps they do not understand that guns are not the problem in this seemingly 3rd world country. We've always had a lot of guns with much less regulation than we have now, but not the deaths. Something has changed and not for the better. Obama has fueled racial tension from day one and many of these killings are directly related to that.

[poppy]

Originally Posted by wendle

Why don't they show pictures of the killers when it's a black on white hate crime?

Because it doesn't fit their agenda. Pictures of blacks who kill whites might make thinking people question just why it is the people portrayed as victims who are really the killers.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by poppy

For whatever reason, some are warning their citizens not to visit the US. Perhaps they do not understand that guns are not the problem in this seemingly 3rd world country. We've always had a lot of guns with much less regulation than we have now, but not the deaths. Something has changed and not for the better. Obama has fueled racial tension from day one and many of these killings are directly related to that.

It isn't racial tention, we've had much worst through the years than anything since Obama. I'm no Obama fan, but I don't believe we can blame him for the recent killings nor how crime is rampant. America has seen much worst days economically and politically in it's early stages and during the depression.

What I see happening is the total lack of respect for others. There is no respect for other's property, other people lives, teachers, police officers, etc. I believe it's because we've had it too good.

People no longer want to work for a living because that would require manual labor. No one wants to compromise because that would mean they may have to give up their own agenda. There is little compassion for others, rather I'm first attitude.

We are a throw away nation. If it breaks, just toss it out and buy new. But get all irked if we can't afford to get it now - today. Toss everything out if it's broken alright, including our personal lives, marriages, family members and anyone else we don't care for.

We blame everyone else - including the government. Surely it can't be our own fault. It's all these darn politicians. Funny how that works when we voted them in and then sit and complain for hours on forums, to our friends and family about it, but do we ever wonder what could change if we spent that same amount of time physically protesting, writing letters, and getting out there to demand our representatives either actually represent the people or get out of office.

Why is it that our first clue about the job they would do didn't dawn on us by their negative campaigning, their blaming others, putting down others and elevating themselves into a position of they are greater and better than any one else -- including those who are voting for them. When a candidate blames others, points out everyone else's faults and purposely gets a kick out of mud slinging, we call it "telling the truth", but then we find out they're the biggest liars of all. Wouldn't you think it would occur to us that a mudslinger is showing their true character when they are slinging that mud? Why can't we get it that we will never have a great nation again until we elect people of true good character and morals; yet complain when we elect those who are otherwise? Why would we expect otherwise than weasels in the chicken coop?

Another of the biggest problem as a nation is drugs, IMHO. Most of the crime we see in this country is drug related and the economics and emotional end of having to get those drugs. Drugs are now every where. Even us old grandpa and grandmas could find a source in literally minutes if we wanted to. Years ago, we'd have had no clue where people go to buy drugs. Drugs have also gone white collar, as well as celebrity status. The demand is high, the supply is high, the money to buy them is not. So where do they get the money? Through crime of course. Drugs have severely contributed to the corruption of Americans morals, thought process and is a destroyer of families.

Then we have the issue of the family home. Children are left to raise themselves. We either have both parents working or single parents who are stretched to the limits. There's no time, energy or resources left for children. We pack them up and send them for others to raise either through daycare, soccer, etc. to keep them busy and so others can instill their values on them rather than our own. How many parents even see a child take their first steps any more or say their first words? It usually happens in daycare now. How many teens come home to an empty house every day and have no supervision; so they just do what rebellious teens do. Many parents of course do need both parents working, as do single parents, but there is a whole lot who are there simply because a parents career is more important than the children, or because having all the extras is more important than the children.

I said all that to say this. There are so very many factors in where we are, and why we are where we are today. To declare it the fault of any President, politician or outside source is passing the buck. We're all guilty in some way and the problem and the solution is more complicated than any one, two or fifty people can do to fix it. We may even be past the point of no return because we don't seem to get that and won't until it's too late. This is America and if America becomes a third world country, it's because Americans allowed it to happen. We held the power to change it, we let it slip away out of greed, laziness and passing the buck.