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08/21/13, 05:29 AM
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Shouldn't there be a limit??
A man was arrested in Greenville SC for stabbing a bouncer at a local establishment the other night. They happened to mention that his rap sheet is 41 pages long, with 90 prior arrests. 90?! NINETY?! Why is this guy still on the streets? I believe in due process, but shouldn't there be some kind of limit?
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08/21/13, 08:19 AM
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It's possible . . . that he was "innocent" those other 90 times?
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08/21/13, 08:25 AM
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Or he had a bad childhood or maybe didn't get enough free healthcare?
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08/21/13, 08:34 AM
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Maybe he was just really good at standing his ground.
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08/21/13, 10:38 AM
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Or he has the king of the shyster lawyers.....
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08/21/13, 10:53 AM
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Here career criminals have been determined to be too expensive to house, so they are regularly released.
When being a criminal entitles you to a publicly paid lawyer to use for your infinite number of appeals while the result of those lawsuits mandate you have free health, vision and dental care, along with weight lifting equpment and libraries, along with probation officers for you to ignore at your discretion until the police pick you up again, etc, then you are too expensive.
Meanwhile, as the politicians want to spend money on legislating perks for their contributors and waste no money to expand prisions even to cope with influx of illegal immigrants much less the population increase, then the solution is obvious.
Let'em all go............ until the rising crime rate reminds the polticians why they have prisons at all.
Lawyer logic.........
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08/21/13, 03:41 PM
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I was watching one of those true life crime shows and they were talking about some dude who did 4 yrs. on a murder charge , got out , and surprise surprise did another murder . I was thinking - 4 yrs. on a murder charge ...REALLY !!! . My God , get busted with a joint in your pocket you'll do more time then that .
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08/21/13, 05:33 PM
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Had a carpenter (union) working for me years ago who'd killed 3 people. Killed one and was sentenced to 15 years - out in 7, but while in prison killed another inmate - self defense. Had to hire him, he was next on the union bench, and he killed someone else - no billed (he had friends, and the other guy was dead anyway).
About a month after the last killing somebody laying in wait unloaded a rifle, pistol, and shotgun into him (I'd want to make sure too). The police came by, talked to me for about 2 minutes, and pretty much ended their investigation.
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08/21/13, 09:40 PM
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Do you really want a limit, or do you want to fix the system? Many states have a 3 and out law, that's been abused as badly as every other law in the system.
With all the bad laws already on the books, do you really want another law for them to screw up?
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08/22/13, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Home Harvest
Do you really want a limit, or do you want to fix the system? Many states have a 3 and out law, that's been abused as badly as every other law in the system.
With all the bad laws already on the books, do you really want another law for them to screw up?
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That is for convictions of violent crime not arrest.
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08/22/13, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Vet
That is for convictions of violent crime not arrest.
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Agreed.
Please read the OP's post. He says believes in due process, BUT asks "isn't there a limit where someone who is arrested too many times is taken off the streets". Isn't that what he says? Isn't that comparable to the 3 and out laws? Isn't he asking for another law like 3 and out. Only for arrests, rather than convictions? That's how I took it.
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08/22/13, 03:50 PM
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I'd like to see some sort of tattoo so others could recognize career criminals. Maybe a bar code on the forehead that police could easily scan. The rest of us would know either to avoid or engage.
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08/24/13, 07:16 AM
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You would be amazed at the length of some peoples rap sheets, I have read some that would have made you wonder why this guy was out after reading the first few pages, There are a lot of really bad people on the streets that make it dangerous for our familys.
I know Law Enforcement tends to take a hit on this forum but I can pretty much guarantee you that that all 41 pages of his sheet were not false arrests. False arrests also don't happen as often as people think.
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08/24/13, 07:51 AM
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I haven't gone so far as to consider what the limit should be, or if there should be a new law. I just can't wrap my head around that many arrests. I'm 60, and have never been arrested, falsely or otherwise. We coddle these career criminals, and yet there are those that think private citizens shouldn't have guns. Just how am I supposed to defend myself? Obviously, we can't depend upon the 'justice' system to protect us.
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08/24/13, 07:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe.G
You would be amazed at the length of some peoples rap sheets, I have read some that would have made you wonder why this guy was out after reading the first few pages, There are a lot of really bad people on the streets that make it dangerous for our familys.
I know Law Enforcement tends to take a hit on this forum but I can pretty much guarantee you that that all 41 pages of his sheet were not false arrests. False arrests also don't happen as often as people think.
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I'm not bashing law enforcement but how many of the charges on that rap sheet were the result of adding on every possible additional violation to the initial charge in order to give the DA bargaining chips for a plea agreement and how many were seperate incidents that resulted in a single chargeable offense? Not trying to defend this guy either , but any cop can usually come up with a multitude of things to add in on a simple traffic stop if they wish.
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08/24/13, 10:09 AM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MushCreek
A man was arrested in Greenville SC for stabbing a bouncer at a local establishment the other night. They happened to mention that his rap sheet is 41 pages long, with 90 prior arrests. 90?! NINETY?! Why is this guy still on the streets? I believe in due process, but shouldn't there be some kind of limit?
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Yep, this is obviously harassment! Nobody should be falsely accused 90 times.... NOBODY! Why is this guy on the streets? probably because he has had to spend all of his rent money on legal fees defending himself of all these bogus charges.
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08/24/13, 10:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darren
I'd like to see some sort of tattoo so others could recognize career criminals. Maybe a bar code on the forehead that police could easily scan. The rest of us would know either to avoid or engage.
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Well, that would certainly save them some time and paperwork, at least.
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08/25/13, 09:32 AM
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 I wonder if the gov is using this as a form of population control?
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08/25/13, 10:43 AM
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There is a solution to this kind of problem. It involves gunfire. 
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