Serbu Firearms refuses to sell guns to NYPD

ninny · #1 03/25/13, 02:15 PM

"Serbu Firearms, a manufacturer of bolt-action and semi-automatic .50 caliber sniper rifles, is refusing to sell their wares to the NYPD. Their reason, of course, is that owing to unfair gun laws, they will not support law enforcement in New York. Serbu is one of almost 150 companies that has officially refused to sell to law enforcement in New York following the passage of the SAFE Act, the controversial gun control package that has been met with scorn by gun owners across the nation. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3000572/posts

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simi-steading · #2 03/25/13, 02:19 PM

Good to see yet another company added to the list.. Hope this continues around the country in states with bans.

JeffreyD · #3 03/25/13, 02:45 PM

Pretty soon they'll have to go to another state to outfit their jackbooted thugs!

MO_cows · #4 03/25/13, 04:43 PM

Good for them. But I can't help but wonder if guns and ammo weren't selling like hotcakes right now due to the political climate, if they would still put their principles ahead of making money. In other words, if they NEEDED the business from NYPD right now, would their decision be the same?

Forerunner · #5 03/25/13, 05:21 PM

MoCows......

That moral line you reference is the difference between countries that heal themselves and those that fall to despotism.

We shall see, indeed.

copperkid3 · #6 03/25/13, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffreyD

Pretty soon they'll have to go to another state to outfit their jackbooted thugs!

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by having to arrange "strawman" purchases. . . .

Wonder if Eric Holder would actually file charges?!!!

JeffreyD · #7 03/25/13, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by copperkid3

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by having to arrange "strawman" purchases. . . .

Wonder if Eric Holder would actually file charges?!!!

That was funny!!!!

Jim-mi · #8 03/25/13, 07:00 PM

Now if the ammo makers would do the same.........

Bearfootfarm · #9 03/25/13, 09:34 PM

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by having to arrange "strawman" purchases. . . .

Wonder if Eric Holder would actually file charges?!!!

Bloomberg has already done it, and no charges were ever filed

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In 2006, Bloomberg conducted a number of sting operations in gun stores outside his state. In these, city-paid private investigators attempted to illegally purchase handguns for other people (known as a "straw purchase"). Bloomberg then brought civil charges against stores which did not submit to extensive monitoring from representatives of New York City.

Reaction to the sting operations was overwhelmingly negative in states where he conducted his sting, prompting an investigation by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms to determine whether Bloomberg's "sting" violated any federal gun purchase laws.[32

beowoulf90 · #10 03/26/13, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MO_cows

Good for them. But I can't help but wonder if guns and ammo weren't selling like hotcakes right now due to the political climate, if they would still put their principles ahead of making money. In other words, if they NEEDED the business from NYPD right now, would their decision be the same?

Does it really matter why they did it?

We would all like to think they did it for the Right reasons.

Why do companies like GE and GM always side with the Government and socialism?

Did most people stop buying from them?

No they didn't as far as I can tell..

I personally won't by a GM or GE product unless I absolutely and positively have too. I got rid of my Olds and bought a Ford, but still run a Dodge. When it's time to get rid of it I will replace it with something from a Company that didn't take Government welfare...

So in the long run if this company stands with us in protecting the Constitution, does it really matter why they are standing with us..

Companies that don't may fall, but then only time will tell if that is true..

HDRider · #11 03/26/13, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beowoulf90

Does it really matter why they did it?

We would all like to think they did it for the Right reasons.

Why do companies like GE and GM always side with the Government and socialism?

Did most people stop buying from them?

No they didn't as far as I can tell..

I personally won't by a GM or GE product unless I absolutely and positively have too. I got rid of my Olds and bought a Ford, but still run a Dodge. When it's time to get rid of it I will replace it with something from a Company that didn't take Government welfare...

So in the long run if this company stands with us in protecting the Constitution, does it really matter why they are standing with us..

Companies that don't may fall, but then only time will tell if that is true..

I agree with you wholeheartedly and I admire the statement Serbu is making. I am happy they can make it given current business condition.

joseph97297 · #12 03/26/13, 09:51 AM

I'm all for a business having the right (and courage) to choose to serve or not serve a group of people.

But for those who are railing against 'companies' that receive gov't welfare, do you not buy any food that has been subsidized, or from any company that receives tax breaks?

Just curious, as that would make some long shopping trips.....

HDRider · #13 03/26/13, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joseph97297

I'm all for a business having the right (and courage) to choose to server or not serve a group of people.

But for those who are railing against 'companies' that receive gov't welfare, do you not buy any food that has been subsidized, or from any company that receives tax breaks?

Just curious, as that would make some long shopping trips.....

And in others news today,,, birds pooped on cars. Details at 11.

mmoetc · #14 03/26/13, 10:13 AM

Good for the folks at Serbu for standing up for what they believe in but am I the only one concerned as to why a civilian police force needs 50 cal sniper rifles? The continued militarization of police forces should be as big a concern as background checks.

HDRider · #15 03/26/13, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mmoetc

Good for the folks at Serbu for standing up for what they believe in but am I the only one concerned as to why a civilian police force needs 50 cal sniper rifles? The continued militarization of police forces should be as big a concern as background checks.

No,,, you are not the only one...

Is DHS Ammo For Obama's "National Security Force"?

Gun Control: Our future president in 2008 called for "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military. Should the "bitter-clingers" be worried?

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021213-644201-dhs-buys-7000-semiautomatic-assault-weapons.htm

beowoulf90 · #16 03/26/13, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by joseph97297

I'm all for a business having the right (and courage) to choose to serve or not serve a group of people.

But for those who are railing against 'companies' that receive gov't welfare, do you not buy any food that has been subsidized, or from any company that receives tax breaks?

Just curious, as that would make some long shopping trips.....

Well since you seem to think, we who choose not to buy from companies who get Government welfare are hypocrites.

We raise most of our own veggies and buy from local farmers what we don't raise. We only buy from the Chain grocery store(s) when we have no other options.

Beef, Pork etc comes from a local farm and butcher...Who don't get any government welfare that I know of...

Milk comes from the same farm(s). Butter comes from the milk as does some of the cheese.

Now if the coal industry is being subsidized, then we are guilty, since we use a ton of coal a month to heat our home during the winter, but that has only been since I got hurt by a drunk driver while I was on my Gold Wing, before that we cut & split our on wood..

So now you know we only buy from those companies when we have no other options...

As I said we don't do business with said companies "unless I absolutely and positively have too."

beowoulf90 · #17 03/26/13, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mmoetc

Good for the folks at Serbu for standing up for what they believe in but am I the only one concerned as to why a civilian police force needs 50 cal sniper rifles? The continued militarization of police forces should be as big a concern as background checks.

I've said that before, but people don't seem to care.. They think it's just fine to militarize the Police..I'm with you and find it troubling...

joseph97297 · #18 03/26/13, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by beowoulf90

Well since you seem to think, we who choose not to buy from companies who get Government welfare are hypocrites.
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Wow, put words in others mouths often? Who said you were being a hypocrite? Care to point that out?

I was asking a question, but apparently that is out of bounds? Sorry to ruffle your feathers.

I was curious, is that a crime now on this site? I didn't see where I insulted you or Captain Obvious over there disseminating the birds pooping on cars info........

I'm all for a consumer to have choices, I was just trying to see how you accomplished not buying from 'subsidized' companies....but I see it now, "only as a last resort".

I was just wondering how you purchased gas/fuel, and items like that.

joseph97297 · #19 03/26/13, 10:47 AM

As to the police officers having a 50 cal, I have one, does that mean I am now militarized? If the 'bad' guys have access to it, I see no problem having the 'good' guys having the ability.

And yes, I use those terms loosely.

mmoetc · #20 03/26/13, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by joseph97297

As to the police officers having a 50 cal, I have one, does that mean I am now militarized? If the 'bad' guys have access to it, I see no problem having the 'good' guys having the ability.

And yes, I use those terms loosely.

As a private citizen you have the right to the weapon(s) of your choice. That has nothing to do with the role police departments should play in our society. They are empowered to enforce laws and place those that choose to break those laws in custody. They are to follow due process. I have a hard time figuring out how a weapon such as a 50 cal sniper rifle aids in the arrest process. It is designed to be lethal from long distance. Hardly a tool of aprehension. It has been repeatedly pointed out that the vast majority of gun crimes are committed with hand guns, not "assault weapons" or long rifles. The argument that if bad guys have them so should police is overblown and intellectually dishonest. Bad guys do many things we don't allow police to do. I don't fear the police. Most leo's that I have known have been honorable and trustworthy public servants but I fear that if you give these organizations these weapons human nature takes over and they will find a reason to use them.