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02/18/13, 09:54 AM
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Father charged with shooting drunk driver
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A Texas man whose two young sons were killed in a traffic accident has been charged with murder in the fatal shooting at the crash scene of a suspected drunken driver.
I do not - for one second - condone this father's actions, but I understand them.
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02/18/13, 01:37 PM
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I couldn't find the man guilty of anything. I'll bet the Brazoria County prosecutors aren't looking forward to taking Mr. Barajas to trial.
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02/18/13, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bjba
I couldn't find the man guilty of anything. I'll bet the Brazoria County prosecutors aren't looking forward to taking Mr. Barajas to trial.
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My bet is they don't give a darn except a conviction.
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02/18/13, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bjba
I couldn't find the man guilty of anything. I'll bet the Brazoria County prosecutors aren't looking forward to taking Mr. Barajas to trial.
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Cant disagree more with that second sentence.
Pun intended.
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02/18/13, 02:05 PM
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He needs to be put away for a very long time. I would not tolerate murder.
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02/18/13, 02:19 PM
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Sounds like Barajas couldn't tolerate it either... Sad situation all around.
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02/18/13, 03:09 PM
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Darntootin it is so easy to say what you would or wouldn't do...unless you are in the midst of the emotional trauma of a situation. I bet up until that very minute Mr. B didn't think he would be capable of killing anyone.
My hope is that he can plead temporary insanity. Prayers all around for a sad situation.
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02/18/13, 04:29 PM
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I would love to be on that jury.
There is a time to sentence a man for killing, and a time to let him walk.
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02/18/13, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Forerunner
I would love to be on that jury.
There is a time to sentence a man for killing, and a time to let him walk.
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And this sure is to sentence for a Murder Charge. Nothing else will do.
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02/18/13, 05:00 PM
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What a tragedy. Mr. Barajas shares some responsibility IMO for having his young children in the roadway pushing his broken down truck. The story said "presumed" drunk driver, he was only 20 so easily could have just been one of those "aggressive young men" drivers who was going too fast to stop in time. Still he is responsible for not being able to avoid those children. I'm also trying to figure out how the impact killed both children but there is no mention of injury to Mr. Barajas. The kids were behind pushing and he was inside the truck steering?? Just a bad deal all the way around. Lots of bad choices made and with the worst possible consequences coming from them. Pray for the families.
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02/18/13, 05:22 PM
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Hard to say what you would do in the heat of the moment. Careful how you judge! Until you have walked in those shoes.
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02/18/13, 05:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darntootin
He needs to be put away for a very long time. I would not tolerate murder.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arabian knight
And this sure is to sentence for a Murder Charge. Nothing else will do.
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Do you mean the murderer or the concerned father?
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02/18/13, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fantasymaker
Do you mean the murderer or the concerned father?
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I reread the link. Didn't realize the drunk driver had killed the 2 boys. I can't fault the father.
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02/18/13, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Darntootin
I reread the link. Didn't realize the drunk driver had killed the 2 boys. I can't fault the father.
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So he acted like a Judge, Jury, AND Executioner~!
This is not the 1800's anymore, Laws come into to play here. And Jury by Trial should take place now with a Murder Charge, for the Father of which he is already BEING CHARGED WITH.
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02/18/13, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arabian knight
So he acted like a Judge, Jury, AND Executioner~!
This is not the 1800's anymore, Laws come into to play here. And Jury by Trial should take place now with a Murder Charge, for the Father of which he is already BEING CHARGED WITH.
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Yeah but there is a lot to consider in the circumstances. A crime of passion usually results in a lower sentence than a 'cold blooded', planned and deliberate murder. This case is a very extreme example of that. I would even think a plea of temporary insanity would work.
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02/18/13, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arabian knight
So he acted like a Judge, Jury, AND Executioner~!
This is not the 1800's anymore, Laws come into to play here. And Jury by Trial should take place now with a Murder Charge, for the Father of which he is already BEING CHARGED WITH.
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Maybe if we had a little more eye for an eye justice, some self absorbed people would make better decisions and innocent lives might be spared!
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02/18/13, 06:36 PM
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Ah yes nice Christian People voting for vigilantism. No better then the father taking the justice system into his own hands.
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02/18/13, 06:38 PM
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Ah yes nice Christian People voting for vigilantism. No better then the father taking the justice system into his own hands.
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So you don't believe in temporary insanity. OK that puts you at odds with the justice system. Nothing wrong with that, many people hold fringe beliefs.
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02/18/13, 06:44 PM
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Christianity or not is irrelevant. I used the term because it was the easiest way to get my point across.
Let me put it this way, our society does not punish criminals for their crimes. Sentences are cut and they are let out on "good behavior". How can a violent felon display good behavior after forcing their desires on innocent victims?
Actions should have consequences and then people might make better decisions that affect other members of society!
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02/18/13, 07:01 PM
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If he shot the guy right after the accident (the news stories I read don't make that clear) he as a very good chance for a temporary insanity plea. However, temp insanity seldom works. Some states would say that just the act of going to get his gun makes it premeditated. This case looks about as good as any for temp insanity, though.
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