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simi-steading · #1 02/07/13, 11:36 AM

“I was trying to save people and I just can’t believe I got dispended,” the seven-year-old adorably explained to the Denver FOX affiliate. “I pretended the box, there’s something shaking in it, and I go ‘pshhh.’”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/07/se...#ixzz2KEhE20EK

A shame he really can't save us all.. He can't even save himself...

Wayne02 · #2 02/07/13, 12:29 PM

Yep, he is a dangerous one for sure. We need to get him some help stat. Diagnose with PPSD (Post Playground Stress Disorder) and assign a minimum of three Dr. Phil, hows-that-working-out-for-you counseling sessions.

naturelover · #3 02/07/13, 12:39 PM

When I was 7 years old I didn't even know what a grenade was, imaginary or not. I think it's sad to see a time come when young children have lost their innocence and feel they're called upon to be heroes who save the world by tossing pretend grenades at evil enemies.

All of the past student incidents they've listed in the article are admittedly a bit far-fetched for schools to be getting their knickers in a twist over. However, it does go to prove one thing which is that obviously school officials across the country are getting fed up to the teeth with displays of violence and threats of violence in their schools and in society, whether it's with imaginary weapons or not.

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simi-steading · #4 02/07/13, 12:41 PM

When I was 7, some 40 something years ago.. we knew what grenades were.. Only ours weren't pretend.. We used dirt clods.. and they hurt... and we never got suspended for using them...

The problem is, the more you get onto kids for, the more chance you have of turning them the wrong way... Kinda like sending a minor criminal to prison. Next thing you know he gets out and starts doing armed robberies because society turned on him since he got in trouble and that's what he resorts to for money since he can't get a job, and since all the really hard criminals in prison taught him new "skills"

naturelover · #5 02/07/13, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by simi-steading

When I was 7, some 40 something years ago.. we knew what grenades were.. Only ours weren't pretend.. We used dirt clods.. and they hurt... and we never got suspended for using them...

As a young child I grew up in a society that was trying to discourage acts of violence and warfare - because it was immediately right after the end of WW2 and that war was still an oozing raw wound in the minds of our society. At school if students threw clods of dirt or rocks or anything else that could hurt and injure we got the strap or the yardstick and we got detention in the principal's office. Repeat offenders got suspended.

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The problem is, the more you get onto kids for, the more chance you have of turning them the wrong way... Kinda like sending a minor criminal to prison. Next thing you know he gets out and starts doing armed robberies because society turned on him since he got in trouble and that's what he resorts to for money since he can't get a job, and since all the really hard criminals in prison taught him new "skills"

I agree that the above situation can happen, has happened with some people. I think most of the time it's been because the parents of said children didn't teach their kids the correct societal boundaries and civility and then the schools had to get on the kids' case because parents sent them to school unprepared to be civilized and abiding of school laws.

These days parents have a choice. They can teach their children to be civilized and non-violent at school ..... or ...... if they can't be bothered to teach their children how to be civilized and non-violent in school they can keep their kids at home and home-school them instead. The kids can become further dysfunctional at home.

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Ambereyes · #6 02/07/13, 01:39 PM

Yes lets make all the children conform to one norm.. All the little drones must never think or act any differently than another.. Children play imagination can not be controlled nor censored.

simi-steading · #7 02/07/13, 01:46 PM

Sorry naturelover, but I just can't agree.. Suspending a kid for pretend play by himself that isn't bothering or hurting anyone else just isn't right..

Like Ambereyes said, any more all they are doing is teaching our children how to conform to a way too Politically Correct way of thinking.... They are busy building zombies...

Trixie · #8 02/07/13, 01:50 PM

I was born just prior to WWII, but I knew what grenades were - when I was a kid. We probably didn't play many war games, I don't remember it. We were still into cowboys and outlaws, but we definitely knew something about war.

I don't recall the war having any effect on not playing violent games - but maybe it depends on the location.

If we are getting the story correctly, a friend used a phrase once that I apply to people like the school officials. Someone had done something really ridiculous like that and she said, 'Well, she's just 'seminared out'.

I have seen children who were handled badly by the school, who were punished too severely and too often because of relative small infractions that could have been handled better. Those kids finally decide, 'If I'm going to wear the name, I'm going to play the game.'

Kids know when adults are being ludicrous.

It would be nice if we could teach our kids to never, ever think about violence - although I'm thinking violence may be in the eye of the beholder, sometimes, but that's not going to happen.

To attempt that, one would have to move their children to a place they had no contact with the outside world and certainly wouldn't hunt for food.

simi-steading · #9 02/07/13, 01:55 PM

Until politicians stop creating and fighting wars, our kids will never have violence free lives...

Violence is human nature. Just as it is every other single living creatures nature. We are supposedly smarter than other creatures on the earth because we are self aware and this is why too many believe we can remove violence from our lives. That is a fallacy.

As they say, you can take a boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy.... The same goes with any animal and violence...

naturelover · #10 02/07/13, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by simi-steading

Sorry naturelover, but I just can't agree.. Suspending a kid for pretend play by himself that isn't bothering or hurting anyone else just isn't right..

Like Ambereyes said, any more all they are doing is teaching our children how to conform to a way too Politically Correct way of thinking.... They are busy building zombies...

Yeah. I'm not sure what it is you're disagreeing with as I never said I thought it was right to suspend the child for pretend play with something imaginary. If that's all he did then suspension is over the top.

However, if the school was telling the truth when they said that he has been a repeat offender at disobeying school rules about throwing rocks (as was stated in the article) then I think the school and the boy's parents have an issue that needs to be attended to. The parents shouldn't be trying to sweep that under the rug.

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simi-steading · #11 02/07/13, 02:56 PM

Ok, I thought you were sayaing the kid was in the wrong.. sorry for mis-understanding..

In this case, I have a feeling the boy is telling the truth, and the adults are acting like children..

Trixie · #12 02/07/13, 05:03 PM

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Ok, I thought you were sayaing the kid was in the wrong.. sorry for mis-understanding..

In this case, I have a feeling the boy is telling the truth, and the adults are acting like children..

Jumping in, but that's my thinking - I did preface mine with 'if the story is true'.

It's just that I have seen schools behave in a way that doesn't make sense.

Kids behave like kids, and we need to teach them otherwise - but when adults in authority behave like kids - not sure what to do about it.