RAmen Seattle!

[FourDeuce]

On January 26th, the Seattle police decided to have a gun buy-back day, so they set up and got ready to buy back a bunch of those "dangerous" guns to get them off the streets. Somebody got wind of the deal and had a BRILLIANT idea. A group of gun collectors stood outside the place and held signs offering better deals for the guns. They also gave away donuts to the people with guns to "get rid of".
Stories like that just warm the cockles of my heart.
BTW, did anybody hear anything about that in the news? Strange, but I didn't hear any mention of it. :/

[dkhern]

did same thing at austin, tx. group was still buying guns after cops had run out of food cards.

[Ozarks Tom]

I can just imagine, Seattle being the liberal town it is, all those folks wanting to "get rid" of grandpa's old Navy Colt for $50. Those things are scary you know.

[Warwalk]

@Fourdeuce ~ you said Ramen! Too awesome! (I thought I was the lone pastafarian, lolz

[naturelover]

Originally Posted by FourDeuce

Somebody got wind of the deal and had a BRILLIANT idea. A group of gun collectors stood outside the place and held signs offering better deals for the guns. They also gave away donuts to the people with guns to "get rid of". Stories like that just warm the cockles of my heart.

Certainly sounds like a brilliant way for smugglers and illegal arms dealers to get their hands on more guns to sell illegally, and all right under the noses of the cops. If they can legally get away with it.

I think a group of strangers buying guns from other strangers on the street in front of the police station is probably illegal without some kind of license or permit to buy and sell guns on the street and now the buyers have tipped their hands to who they are and will most likely be getting put on some kind of watch list. Brilliant indeed! So I guess the word of that will get around to all the police stations in other towns and next time the cops will be ready for the next groups of "collectors" who are so eager to be put on an illegal arms dealers watch list. Brilliant! I love it!

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[naturelover]

Originally Posted by FourDeuce

BTW, did anybody hear anything about that in the news? Strange, but I didn't hear any mention of it. :/

Didn't hear anything about it before now but here's a couple of articles about it. Police and mayor's reaction is interesting.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/w...t?oid=15877069

http://www.infowars.com/backfire-sea...those-in-line/

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[Allen W]

Originally Posted by naturelover

Certainly sounds like a brilliant way for smugglers and illegal arms dealers to get their hands on more guns to sell illegally, and all right under the noses of the cops. If they can legally get away with it.

I think a group of strangers buying guns from other strangers on the street in front of the police station is probably illegal without some kind of license or permit to buy and sell guns on the street and now the buyers have tipped their hands to who they are and will most likely be getting put on some kind of watch list. Brilliant indeed! So I guess the word of that will get around to all the police stations in other towns and next time the cops will be ready for the next groups of "collectors" who are so eager to be put on an illegal arms dealers watch list. Brilliant! I love it!

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Face to face gun sales are legal.

[naturelover]

Originally Posted by Allen W

Face to face gun sales are legal.

Yes, but impromptu buy and sell gun bazaars on a public street without a permit are not. That is what happened there this time. The authorities are already planning on doing a review on how to prevent something similar from happening again there in Seattle and in other towns.

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[Ambereyes]

Good going guys, would love to get in on some of those buys.

[FourDeuce]

"I think a group of strangers buying guns from other strangers on the street in front of the police station is probably illegal without some kind of license or permit to buy and sell guns on the street and now the buyers have tipped their hands to who they are and will most likely be getting put on some kind of watch list. Brilliant indeed! So I guess the word of that will get around to all the police stations in other towns and next time the cops will be ready for the next groups of "collectors" who are so eager to be put on an illegal arms dealers watch list."

That statement is so full of fail I hardly know where to start. Buying guns from strangers is not illegal. IF they are guilty of committing a crime, it would have to be illegal assembly or something like that. People who know nothing about gun laws probably shouldn't try to discuss them.
If you want to, maybe you should call some police department and ask them if they have a list of "illegal arms dealers".

[FourDeuce]

"The authorities are already planning on doing a review on how to prevent something similar from happening again there in Seattle and in other towns."

I know what they could do. They could build some Arbeitslagers and put all the gun owners in them. Then they could ignore all the other parts of the Constitution they don't like.

[jefferson]

Note to self. next time one of these is set up, contact board and get cash from bank.

[naturelover]

Originally Posted by FourDeuce

.....IF they are guilty of committing a crime, it would have to be illegal assembly or something like that.

Or something. Well yeah! Duh.

What else would you call an impromptu buy & sell gun bazaar with people flashing signs on a public street in front of the police stations? You need a permit for something like that. Those guys are fortunate that the police didn't make an issue about it because they could have. Easier to just shut it down 3 hours early like they did.

If you want to, maybe you should call some police department and ask them if they have a list of "illegal arms dealers".

LOL. I don't need to, I already know they do.

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[Ambereyes]

They were in front of a police station, if the activity was illegal us think the cops might make some arrests.

[Raven12]

Smugglers? Like the ones that drive across the WA state border for dishwashing detergent?

[naturelover]

Originally Posted by Ambereyes

They were in front of a police station, if the activity was illegal us think the cops might make some arrests.

Ya think? I think not. I think that would have been a stupid thing to do under the circumstances and I'm pretty sure the police knew it would be a stupid thing to do ..... especially if they were understaffed at the time.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/w...t?oid=15877069

A line of cars, trunks filled with unwanted weapons, still extended for several blocks up James Street on Saturday, January 26, when police officers started turning vehicles away shortly before noon.

"We were not expecting this level of response," Seattle police deputy chief Nick Metz said at a press conference two days later. Based on similar buyback events in other cities, Seattle officials had expected to collect about 100 guns an hour, but weapons were coming in at nearly three times that rate, creating a traffic jam around the buyback site beneath I-5 between Cherry and James Streets, and a long line of armed citizens waiting to dispose of their weapons.

So if they started arresting people during a situation that turned out totally unexpected and that they weren't prepared for with hundreds of people there all armed - you think arresting a few law breakers might not start a riot, possibly even some shooting?

I don't think the Seattle police are THAT stupid. They narrowly averted what could have proven to be a disaster, did the discreet thing and cut it short by 3 hours ahead of time and got rid of everyone before a riot could get started. They learned a lesson from an unexpected situation that will help them and other police across the nation to be better prepared and have more police available if arrests are necessary the next time gun buyers try to pull an unlawful stunt like that. Plus they will have extra staff available to take special note of and ID who the gun buyers are.

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[FourDeuce]

"Ya think? I think not. I think that would have been a stupid thing to do under the circumstances and I'm pretty sure the police knew it would be a stupid thing to do"

Right. I'm sure the police have many better things to do with their time than to go around arresting people for breaking the law.

"I don't think they are stupid enough to arrest people for breaking a law that doesn't exist.

[FourDeuce]

Originally Posted by naturelover

Or something. Well yeah! Duh.

Well, duh, indeed. Somebody just a few posts ago called them "illegal gun dealers". Gee, I can't remember who that was, but somebody seems to be trying to imply that the ACTIVITY those guys were involved in was illegal, and from the seriousness it sounded like something much more serious than an illegal assembly.
I went back and found it: "I think a group of strangers buying guns from other strangers on the street in front of the police station is probably illegal without some kind of license or permit to buy and sell guns on the street"

What else would you call an impromptu buy & sell gun bazaar with people flashing signs on a public street in front of the police stations?

The same thing I'd call ANY gathering of friends and associates in public. The right to free assembly.

You need a permit for something like that. Those guys are fortunate that the police didn't make an issue about it because they could have. Easier to just shut it down 3 hours early like they did.



LOL. I don't need to, I already know they do.

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So you're here in this thread about GUN CONTROL to rant about people gathering together illegally? Ok. That makes sense. Should we also ban movie theaters, restaurants, and every other public place?

[FourDeuce]

Originally Posted by naturelover

Certainly sounds like a brilliant way for smugglers and illegal arms dealers to get their hands on more guns to sell illegally, and all right under the noses of the cops. If they can legally get away with it.

Yeah, I'm sure smugglers and illegal arms dealers are going to go right in front of the police station to buy their guns.

I think a group of strangers buying guns from other strangers on the street in front of the police station is probably illegal without some kind of license or permit to buy and sell guns on the street and now the buyers have tipped their hands to who they are and will most likely be getting put on some kind of watch list. Brilliant indeed! So I guess the word of that will get around to all the police stations in other towns and next time the cops will be ready for the next groups of "collectors" who are so eager to be put on an illegal arms dealers watch list. Brilliant! I love it!

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You shouldn't try to speak on laws when you just try to make up the laws.

[naturelover]

The scalpers who were buying guns were being watched by the police. The police confiscated one controlled military weapon (a missile launcher) from a scalper who bought it from someone who was there to get rid of it.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/O...188701871.html

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