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01/14/13, 09:00 PM
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128 million Americans now on government assistance
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01/14/13, 09:16 PM
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Too bad they don't have the stats for how many of them are illegal residents, supposedly not eligible for federal benefits.
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01/14/13, 10:24 PM
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To bad they don't have the stats on how many of them are lazy, unaccountable, waiting for a hand OUT americans.
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01/14/13, 10:33 PM
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You didn't know this would happen when the economy imploded back in 2008? Seriously?
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01/14/13, 11:46 PM
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Too bad they didn't have the stats for how many corporations are getting millions
how many foreign farmers are getting money to not grow food so agribusiness can dump their already subsidized grain
, how many foreign countries are getting billions ,
how many millions are disappearing into government personal pockets, etc.
How many billion we are spending fighting people in the ME
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01/15/13, 07:10 AM
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How much money leaves this country and into the off shore Banks by the wealthiest Americans?
How much money leaves this country for the homelands of green-card legal aliens?
How much money, in earned wages, leaves this country for the homelands of illegal aliens (est 18 million people)
How much money, from the sale of illegal drugs leaves this country for the homelands of illegal aliens?
How much money leaves this country to service the loans we have made with China?
How much is our imbalance of trade with China, Canada, Mexico, etc.?
What is the total in lost US worker income by free trade with Mexico and China in the so called "Free Trade"?
What does the US spend on families of workers displaced by free trade=open imports?
What does the US spend on families of workers displaced by free trade=export of jobs?
What does the US spend providing education, medical and housing to illegal aliens, so they can avoid taxes and send more money to their homeland?
Of the 250 million bu. of corn we sent to China this year, what is the total cost to the tax payers for the subsidy on that amount of corn?
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01/15/13, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevada
You didn't know this would happen when the economy imploded back in 2008? Seriously?
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Go look at all the bubbles created by the Federal Reserve-and you can blame the 2008 implosion on them. It was created, and the run on the fed was done by themselves to put O in office. The Fed. runs this country and elections. We're doomed.
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01/15/13, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 7thswan
Go look at all the bubbles created by the Federal Reserve-and you can blame the 2008 implosion on them.
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Yes, the blame falls squarely on the Fed, since the Fed regulates banks. But the thing is that the Fed Chief severs at the pleasure of the president, since the president appoints him. I have to believe that the Fed Chief was doing what the president wanted done.
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01/15/13, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevada
Yes, the blame falls squarely on the Fed, since the Fed regulates banks. But the thing is that the Fed Chief severs at the pleasure of the president, since the president appoints him. I have to believe that the Fed Chief was doing what the president wanted done.
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The fed chief may be appointed by the president but is run and owned by the banks. The chief is nothing more than a figure head to appease the American people. The fed has nothing to do with the Federal government other than name. It is totally run by banks NOT from the US. Check ownership or controlling interest of Federal Reserve banks and see for yourself.
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01/15/13, 12:27 PM
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that article is by the heritage foundation and i see they count the people on S.S. and medicare as entitlements, not all people count them as so
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01/15/13, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bignugly
The fed chief may be appointed by the president but is run and owned by the banks. The chief is nothing more than a figure head to appease the American people. The fed has nothing to do with the Federal government other than name. It is totally run by banks NOT from the US. Check ownership or controlling interest of Federal Reserve banks and see for yourself.
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That's true, they are technically a private, independent corporation. But beyond the Fed Chief being appointed by the president, the Fed's very existence is courtesy of congress (the Federal Reserve Act). The federal government giveth, so the federal government can taketh away -- and the Fed knows it. They have no realistic choice except to meet the federal government half way.
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01/15/13, 01:04 PM
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That's what bugs me.People complain about others getting assistance : while ignoring the massive amount of corruption that is likely the cause of it.
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01/15/13, 01:07 PM
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The only bad assistance is the assistance everyone else is getting.... <right?!?>
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01/15/13, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevada
That's true, they are technically a private, independent corporation. But beyond the Fed Chief being appointed by the president, the Fed's very existence is courtesy of congress (the Federal Reserve Act). The federal government giveth, so the federal government can taketh away -- and the Fed knows it. They have no realistic choice except to meet the federal government half way.
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I do not belive that. I'm convinced that the Fed. is now Global Bankers. Our Goverment is nothing anymore, we are just pawns.
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01/15/13, 07:32 PM
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Let's see - billions to foreign government, billions to corporations, millions to illegals, billions fighting wars that are not our affair, gyms, bike paths, museums, theaters, etc.
Yes, I do believe those should be cut before SS and even Welfare.
Welfare is an abomination. It has made it so easy for families to break apart, and parents leave their responsibilities. It has caused a huge number of our people to become dependent, not develop as they should.
That is something that needs to be addressed - but to consider the other giveways should come before that is wrong.
As for SS, that was worked for - the fact the government mishandled it, stole it, and have abused it in many ways, is not my fault. We are all making restitution for misdeeds of our government - this is just one of them. Some of us on SS are still paying taxes - plenty of them. Some of us on SS have never taken anything from the government - not an earned income tax credit, not a loan or grant of any kind - nothing - actually speaking for myself.
Should it survive = those complaining about it now, will take their checks and rightly so. They have paid into it - as have we.
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01/16/13, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl B
That's what bugs me.People complain about others getting assistance : while ignoring the massive amount of corruption that is likely the cause of it.
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Does it count if we complain about the corruption that allows slackers and illegals to receive assistance? Does it count if we complain about politicians who constantly have their thieving hands in our pockets? Does it count if we complain about the whole system and the attitude of "mine first"?
I'm pretty sure you'll find that most of us who complain about people receiving govt assistance, when it isn't warranted, complain about it from the top down.
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