Facts and the Lamestream-Shooting

zant · #1 12/14/12, 06:38 PM

Well the 24hr news cycle lamestream is spouting it's usual brand of lies and make it up to get on air.....Let's see what lamestream has reported so far
Ryan-age 24-shooter....
Adam-age 20-shooter
2 people were involved
1 person was involved
mother(school teacher)killed then her class killed
mother killed at home
father killed at home
unidentified member of family killed at fathers home
used .223 rifle
used 2 handguns-Glock and Sig
did'nt use .223 rifle-handguns only-rifle found in trunk
has Aspergers
has autism
was taking large amounts of pyschiatric drugs
was'nt taking any pyschiatric drugs
girlfriend missing girlfriend not missing
WRONG facebook spread over enemedia
So the reality is 20something innocents are dead by the hand of a loser slacker..........and the lamestream enemedia and the Big Dummy in the WH are salivating that stupids will believe more useless gun control will solve anything......
As Dr Phil says-"Hows are those posted/publized GunFreeZones working for you"

Oggie · #2 12/14/12, 06:42 PM

The answer to your problem is simple: Wait until tomorrow afternoon to look for stories about this event and they will be more reliable.

Better yet, wait until Monday or Tuesday.

PistolPackinMom · #3 12/14/12, 07:50 PM

I told my husband that no matter what information comes out in the first 24 hours (conflicting, irregular, flat out crazy, wrong) will contain more honesty than the "approved" version of events we will get at the end of the week.

Pearl B · #4 12/14/12, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PistolPackinMom

I told my husband that no matter what information comes out in the first 24 hours (conflicting, irregular, flat out crazy, wrong) will contain more honesty than the "approved" version of events we will get at the end of the week.

Thats why I love to watch breaking news.

Bearfootfarm · #5 12/14/12, 09:05 PM

Todays reports focus on using all the right buzzwords, and planting images in peoples minds.

They keep doing close up shots on AR-15's without mentioning the only ones being carried are those brought there by the police.

wanda1950 · #6 12/14/12, 09:19 PM

I can't believe some people are trying to make something political out of the coverage of this horrible tragedy. I believe if Jesus appeared in the clouds some here would say it was a liberal plot to take their guns.

There are always errors in early reporting & this was announced over & over on CNN--that all were preliminary & not yet verified

Barack Obama is a father himself & I doubt if he was thinking about anything but what MOST of us parents were--this could have been my babies.

Some of you will be glad to read this: I don't think I'll ever read any of these posts again--I've tried to be fair to all but you've finally made me sick to my stomach.

Pearl B · #7 12/14/12, 09:23 PM

Take that thread I started on Portland. I linked to an article by Reuters. Reuters said they got the info from a Oregon paper that a semi-automatic was used. Anderson Cooper not long after said it was an AR15. This was hours before the police confirmed anything. In fact I think it was within the hour that the event was being reported at all.

Really lucky guess or what? I thought the press was hesitant to put down anything as substantial without confirmation. How did the Oregon paper get it?

The link now goes to a updated article, not the original one I posted.

(Reuters) - A gunman opened fire at an Oregon shopping mall outside of Portland on Tuesday and multiple people were believed to have been shot and wounded, authorities said.
The gunman remained at large at the Clackamas Town Center near the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, said Steve Campbell, spokesman for the city.
"There is an active shooter at the Clackamas Town Center," Campbell said.
The Oregonian newspaper reported on its website that two people had been killed by a man using a semiautomatic rifle who may have also been wearing body armor. The paper said the shooting occurred near the mall's food court. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/12/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSBRE8BB01720121212

Forerunner · #8 12/15/12, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wanda1950

I can't believe some people are trying to make something political out of the coverage of this horrible tragedy. I believe if Jesus appeared in the clouds some here would say it was a liberal plot to take their guns.

There are always errors in early reporting & this was announced over & over on CNN--that all were preliminary & not yet verified

Barack Obama is a father himself & I doubt if he was thinking about anything but what MOST of us parents were--this could have been my babies.

Some of you will be glad to read this: I don't think I'll ever read any of these posts again--I've tried to be fair to all but you've finally made me sick to my stomach.

Fire comes in many forms.

If you get burned enough times, you come to a point where you can recognize all of them.

plowjockey · #9 12/15/12, 07:51 AM

They are fully aware - as are we, that when news like this happens, there are 862 different sources, where we can get news updates.

It's their job to make sure, you stay tuned into their news, so they'll tell us anything just to get it stayed tuned, to their broadcast. It's not Walter Cronkite, sitting with neatly stacked paper news stories - well after the event happened.

We can also blame our own blood lust and morbid curiosity and they are only supplying, what we demand, which in the end, will only give these losers, the 15 minutes of fame (10 minutes any more), that they wanted.

In the end, what difference does it make (other than those who might be involved) whether the shooter was 20, or 50 years old and whether it was 10 kids, 17, or 23, that got killed?

This was yet another needless, horrible tragedy, yet for some reason, people need to follow it as closely, as if it was the stats, of their favorite NFL team.

ninny · #10 12/15/12, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wanda1950

I can't believe some people are trying to make something political out of the coverage of this horrible tragedy. I believe if Jesus appeared in the clouds some here would say it was a liberal plot to take their guns.

There are always errors in early reporting & this was announced over & over on CNN--that all were preliminary & not yet verified

Barack Obama is a father himself & I doubt if he was thinking about anything but what MOST of us parents were--this could have been my babies.

Some of you will be glad to read this: I don't think I'll ever read any of these posts again--I've tried to be fair to all but you've finally made me sick to my stomach.

I seriously doubt that he was thinking that it could have been his babies because his babies are protected by men that are carrying guns...

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zant · #11 12/15/12, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanda1950

I can't believe some people are trying to make something political out of the coverage of this horrible tragedy. I believe if Jesus appeared in the clouds some here would say it was a liberal plot to take their guns.

There are always errors in early reporting & this was announced over & over on CNN--that all were preliminary & not yet verified

Barack Obama is a father himself & I doubt if he was thinking about anything but what MOST of us parents were--this could have been my babies.

Some of you will be glad to read this: I don't think I'll ever read any of these posts again--I've tried to be fair to all but you've finally made me sick to my stomach.

YES Wanda...most of the perverted scum making this into a POLITICAL matter are YOUR FELLOW PROGRESSIVES...the people you love and vote for........kinda sickening-is'nt it....

Pearl B · #12 12/15/12, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ninny

I seriously doubt that he was thinking that it could have been his babies because his babies are protected by men that are carrying guns...

.

And thats kinda the point of it, armed people are safe people.

I used to watch a show on discovery or some such channel. it was wild west tech.They did an episode on arms and society. Most small towns didnt need a sheriff, the people could take care of themselves. Most the town folks took care of thieves and such themselves. Said if a stranger came to town, got real drunk & rude they could find themselves shot, and most of the other folk figured it wasnt their affairs and went about their business. I just bet that the ill tempered & deranged got dispatched early in life.

Seems a well armed society is a polite one.

Some might say thats kinda barbaric. I think what armed pycho's do to an unarmed society it barbaric. I really think that for the by and large of it the only people that need the police are the criminals. They need the police and criminal justice system to keep them from meeting directly with the consequences of their actions.

I bet we as a society could live quit well without all the police and prisons we have these days.

Sawmill Jim · #13 12/15/12, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ninny

I seriously doubt that he was thinking that it could have been his babies because his babies are protected by men that are carrying guns...

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Yep several men at the tune of around $120,000 a year each plus beanies.

Scott SW Ohio · #14 12/15/12, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sawmill Jim

Yep several men at the tune of around $120,000 a year each plus beanies.

You always can spot these guys by their signature outfits - dark suits, sunglasses and beanies.

Sawmill Jim · #15 12/15/12, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott SW Ohio

You always can spot these guys by their signature outfits - dark suits, sunglasses and beanies.

My flu is kicking up today

Most are easy to spot some not so much so .

Once when Bill Clinton came to our little town some kid at school made some bad remarks about Bill . Day Bill was here his whole family had a crew of armed sitters at their house

Scott SW Ohio · #16 12/15/12, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sawmill Jim

My flu is kicking up today

Most are easy to spot some not so much so .

Once when Bill Clinton came to our little town some kid at school made some bad remarks about Bill . Day Bill was here his whole family had a crew of armed sitters at their house

Jim, I'm sorry you are sick and hope you feel better soon.

Jim-mi · #17 12/15/12, 01:36 PM

I would like to modify ninnys sentence in the post above; "many many highly trained men with guns"

Bearfootfarm · #18 12/15/12, 06:58 PM

The story has changed greatly in 24 hours
Now no "5 year olds" were killed, and there were 4 guns instead of just 2
He didn't get "buzzed in"
His mother wasn't a teacher there

So much of what was reported before was either simply false, or TODAY'S reports are false

Either way, the media has NO CREDIBILITY

willow_girl · #19 12/17/12, 07:08 AM

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Really lucky guess or what? I thought the press was hesitant to put down anything as substantial without confirmation.

Nope.

There is always significant tension between the desire to break the news and the need to be accurate, and sometimes the former trumps the latter.

Hollowdweller · #20 12/17/12, 08:30 AM

Sort of like the Bengazi thing.