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11/07/12, 08:21 PM
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Some of what he felt, I shared with someone last evening.
I try to catch him, but just don't have the time during the late morning hours when he's on our local station.
Don't know what he'll accomplish, but he gets an A plus for trying.
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11/07/12, 08:51 PM
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I listen to Beck every now and then when it pops up on the torrent site, makes for an interesting hour or so.
My favorite part of the OP post:
" you know what really scares me is I’m always wrong about politics. I can’t ‑‑ I can’t tell you what’s going to happen in politics" yet, he tries.....
I read the entire article, and then got to the end, where he is asking (or is that begging) for more subscriptions...get a friend or three, gift them a subscription, just send in tha' money.......
Kudos to you Mr. Beck, you have built quite a gig for yourself..... kudos indeed.
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11/07/12, 09:06 PM
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I read the entire article, and then got to the end, where he is asking (or is that begging) for more subscriptions...get a friend or three, gift them a subscription, just send in tha' money.......
Kudos to you Mr. Beck, you have built quite a gig for yourself..... kudos indeed.
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I always figured these guys (off camera and microphone), got on their knees and prayed to their god, that Barack Obama, was re-elected.
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11/07/12, 09:11 PM
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Beck said:
His work and his glory is not for a presidential election. It’s for the salvation of all mankind. And that requires freedom. So his agenda is freedom, and we have esteemed it too lightly.
Salvation requires freedom?
That's odd.....because millions were saved long before American-style freedom was ever birthed. Many have been save in communist countries, in prison, as slaves.
Where's he get this from?
Tim
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11/07/12, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tarbe
Beck said:
His work and his glory is not for a presidential election. It’s for the salvation of all mankind. And that requires freedom. So his agenda is freedom, and we have esteemed it too lightly.
Salvation requires freedom?
That's odd.....because millions were saved long before American-style freedom was ever birthed. Many have been save in communist countries, in prison, as slaves.
Where's he get this from?
Tim
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He gets it from his view on the constitution as a divinely inspired document, and as the United States as the repository for God-given freedom and liberty. He believes, as do I, that we were entrusted with guarding this freedom...and we're failing. Freedom and agency are vital in the plan of salvation.
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11/07/12, 10:13 PM
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He gets it from his view on the constitution as a divinely inspired document, and as the United States as the repository for God-given freedom and liberty. .
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Can you explain this more? especially "divinely inspired" and is the United States unique in its function as repository of God-given freedom and liberty or can other countries also be a repository of God-given freedom and liberty?
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11/07/12, 11:43 PM
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can other countries also be a repository of God-given freedom and liberty?
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Of course they "can " be, but most aren't, and most certainly weren't at the time this country came to be
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11/07/12, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tarbe
Beck said:
His work and his glory is not for a presidential election. It’s for the salvation of all mankind. And that requires freedom. So his agenda is freedom, and we have esteemed it too lightly.
Salvation requires freedom?
That's odd.....because millions were saved long before American-style freedom was ever birthed. Many have been save in communist countries, in prison, as slaves.
Where's he get this from?
Tim
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Salvation can only come thru freewill,, freewill only come thru freedom of thought.
Thos who understand salvation, desire any and all mankind to be saved.
Why is that so difficult to comprehend.
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11/08/12, 05:10 AM
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So was the Constitution divinely inspired? Were the other documents that helped found this great nation 'divinely inspired' as well?
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11/08/12, 05:37 AM
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So was the Constitution divinely inspired? Were the other documents that helped found this great nation 'divinely inspired' as well?
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Help me if I am confused:
I understood "Divinely Inspired" to mean God wrote it.
I also know the only thing God wrote, via the Holy Spirit, through a man's arm, was Scripture.......
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When God Himself, wrote the first 10 Commandments.
That's it.
The Constitution, as cool as it is, was written by men, for men, period.
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11/08/12, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by thequeensblessing
He gets it from his view on the constitution as a divinely inspired document, and as the United States as the repository for God-given freedom and liberty. He believes, as do I, that we were entrusted with guarding this freedom...and we're failing. Freedom and agency are vital in the plan of salvation.
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This line of thinking is ultimately what, in spite of the fact that I am a devout Christian, led me away from the Conservative movement of which I had been an adherent since my earliest understandings of politics.
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11/08/12, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5
Help me if I am confused:
I understood "Divinely Inspired" to mean God wrote it.
I also know the only thing God wrote, via the Holy Spirit, through a man's arm, was Scripture.......
OR
When God Himself, wrote the first 10 Commandments.
That's it.
The Constitution, as cool as it is, was written by men, for men, period. 
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Divinely inspired and divinely authored are entirely different animals. The finger of God wrote the 10 commandments. It was divinely authored.
Divinely inspired documents are just that; inspired by God within the hearts and minds of men, whispered by the spirit and penned by men.
But then, Glenn Beck, myself, and many other out there don't believe for a moment that God doesn't continue to talk to us, to inspire us, to communicate with us in various ways.
The constitution and bill of rights were divinely inspired, whispered to the hearts and minds of men by the Spirit, written for mankind, by mankind, at the encouragement and inspiration of God.
Therefore, we feel we a need to guard these documents, and guard the freedoms, rights, and privileges they grant us.
Yes, inspired of God.
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11/08/12, 07:00 AM
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This line of thinking is ultimately what, in spite of the fact that I am a devout Christian, led me away from the Conservative movement of which I had been an adherent since my earliest understandings of politics.
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Not sure I understand, but, hey, each to his/her own! I used to be more liberal leaning and as I learned more and studied more, I came to embrace a more conservative approach, although I do not fit into the republican party very easily. I'm more of a constitutional conservative/libertarian.
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11/08/12, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by thequeensblessing
Divinely inspired and divinely authored are entirely different animals. The finger of God wrote the 10 commandments. It was divinely authored.
Divinely inspired documents are just that; inspired by God within the hearts and minds of men, whispered by the spirit and penned by men.
But then, Glenn Beck, myself, and many other out there don't believe for a moment that God doesn't continue to talk to us, to inspire us, to communicate with us in various ways.
The constitution and bill of rights were divinely inspired, whispered to the hearts and minds of men by the Spirit, written for mankind, by mankind, at the encouragement and inspiration of God.
Therefore, we feel we a need to guard these documents, and guard the freedoms, rights, and privileges they grant us.
Yes, inspired of God.
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Excellent explanation.
Can you match this line of thought with Scripture? Romans 13?
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11/08/12, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by thequeensblessing
Not sure I understand, but, hey, each to his/her own! I used to be more liberal leaning and as I learned more and studied more, I came to embrace a more conservative approach, although I do not fit into the republican party very easily. I'm more of a constitutional conservative/libertarian.
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After religion (becoming a Christian, that is), reading history was the second biggest factor in my rejecting Conservatism. Any reading of history other than a rather superficial one shows that the Founding Fathers were not Constituonal Conservatives in the current sense of the term.
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11/08/12, 07:23 AM
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After religion (becoming a Christian, that is), reading history was the second biggest factor in my rejecting Conservatism. Any reading of history other than a rather superficial one shows that the Founding Fathers were not Constituonal Conservatives in the current sense of the term.
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while that's true, it's also true that our founding fathers didn't all agree with one another politically either. they weren't being pigeon-holed into any "parties". They were a prime example of politicians with differing political views coming together for a common cause and the common good. It can be done!
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11/08/12, 07:25 AM
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Excellent explanation.
Can you match this line of thought with Scripture? Romans 13?
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This is a fairly decent summation of how I view Romans 13.
Romans 13
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11/08/12, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by thequeensblessing
while that's true, it's also true that our founding fathers didn't all agree with one another politically either. they weren't being pigeon-holed into any "parties". They were a prime example of politicians with differing political views coming together for a common cause and the common good. It can be done!
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Generally, I do agree with that. Although I reject modern political Conservatism, I don't think that it's entirely without merit. I remain something of a philosophiical conservative.
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11/08/12, 07:57 AM
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I understood "Divinely Inspired" to mean God wrote it.
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Inspired by God, not written by God.
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I also know the only thing God wrote, via the Holy Spirit, through a man's arm, was Scripture.......
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Man wrote the Bible, hopefully they were all inspired by God too. I have my doubts about a couple of books inside the Bible however.
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