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09/12/12, 02:10 PM
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Pot Doctor across the drive from Veterinarian
Took an animal to the vet's this morning and saw the Pot Doctor's ( a medical doctor who sole business is providing prescriptions for medical marijuana) parking lot was full. The receptionist at the vet's said that a lot of the people who come there don't look too sober on arrival.
I suspect that this doctor's fees are primarily private pay but who knows, could be tax dollars at work.
Anyway his receptionist makes appointment and the doctor breezes in and out to get his fee. Maybe the emergency room at the hospital should start providing pot 'scripts. Maybe they could be solvent if they did. I bet that most would pay right up front for that. People seem to have the funds for that "medical cost."
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09/12/12, 02:46 PM
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I thought pot was illegal under federal law.
I thought federal law trumps state law.
I thought Americans were supposed to get equal treatment under the law.
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09/12/12, 02:54 PM
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It Is
Feds decided not to enforce
They are by the feds
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09/12/12, 03:09 PM
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Well- sort a......
The Obama Administration said they would not pursue medical pot in California. Then things went more extreme with pot grows and dispenseries and the Fed blew in with a large number of raids and orders to close pot coops, etc.
Actually have had two large scale grows raided on the road I live in the last two months.
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09/12/12, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by where I want to
Well- sort a......
The Obama Administration said they would not pursue medical pot in California. Then things went more extreme with pot grows and dispenseries and the Fed blew in with a large number of raids and orders to close pot coops, etc.
Actually have had two large scale grows raided on the road I live in the last two months.
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Expect that to happen on a selective basis. They have to show they are going to do it once in awhile. With our cocaine President in office who has specifically stated that he is not planning on enforcing federal law on marijuana operations, I fully expect the rash of dispensaries to continue to grow in Californica. (On Purpose) The amounts of money to be made in the trade are way too much for Californica to ignore. The legal dispensaries are paying taxes and it is the Federal Authorities for the most part that are performing the raids. But the state is loving the tax dollars that are coming in while the Feds are trying to show their occasional force.
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09/12/12, 07:51 PM
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In some ways I wish they would just make marijuana legal,haven't smoke it for years but never seen the problem.
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09/12/12, 08:22 PM
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So thats why Obama never shows up for his meetings. He's been
token on the good stuff.
Don't bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me.
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09/12/12, 08:58 PM
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What's funny is that even though you might have a script for marijuana, you are not exempt from possessing marijuana in a vehicle. I hope all those people were walking.
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09/12/12, 09:46 PM
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I wish they would just make it legal already! I have no desire to smoke it, but I can't for the life of me see why it's prohibited.
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09/12/12, 11:19 PM
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I wish they would just make it legal already! I have no desire to smoke it, but I can't for the life of me see why it's prohibited. 
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Actually I suppose it will be like tobacco products. When it's totally legal, there will be increasing evidence of the various health harm caused by its regular use. Then the government will spend money to have ad campaigns to convince people to stop smoking it.
For those of you who do not live where it is pretty much legal, as it is here, you will find that there are problems- like have you ever had to live downwind of a real pothead? Reeks. Driving while high causing accidents? As one guy who ran his motor home off the highway and down an embankment found out- waving his 215 card at the police does not excuse driving while impaired. All the wonderful people robbing each other to steal each other's pot? Police have to respond to that too.
Stupid people will just be more stupid consuming pot. It will have to be regulated just like alcohol. And the rest of the population will just have to live with the results.
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09/12/12, 11:42 PM
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I wish they would just make it legal already!
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I wish they would legalize it and tax it super high. If they did, it would help a lot of our economic problems.
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09/12/12, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by where I want to
Actually I suppose it will be like tobacco products. When it's totally legal, there will be increasing evidence of the various health harm caused by its regular use. Then the government will spend money to have ad campaigns to convince people to stop smoking it.
For those of you who do not live where it is pretty much legal, as it is here, you will find that there are problems- like have you ever had to live downwind of a real pothead? Reeks. Driving while high causing accidents? As one guy who ran his motor home off the highway and down an embankment found out- waving his 215 card at the police does not excuse driving while impaired. All the wonderful people robbing each other to steal each other's pot? Police have to respond to that too.
Stupid people will just be more stupid consuming pot. It will have to be regulated just like alcohol. And the rest of the population will just have to live with the results.
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I'm pretty sure there would be lables stating "Do not drive or operate machinery"
I havn't smoked for 28 years, the day my daughter was born. But I do remember having a couple hits with my morning coffee. It was heaven I tell ya.
Was I stupid?? Naw.
I was no more or less judgemental back then than I am now.
You may not understand, nor believe this.
But do you realize how many folks were not killed from a man with a temper, but instead, went and had a toke instead?
pot does have its medicinal purposes.
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09/13/12, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sirquack
Expect that to happen on a selective basis. They have to show they are going to do it once in awhile. With our cocaine President in office who has specifically stated that he is not planning on enforcing federal law on marijuana operations, I fully expect the rash of dispensaries to continue to grow in Californica. (On Purpose) The amounts of money to be made in the trade are way too much for Californica to ignore. The legal dispensaries are paying taxes and it is the Federal Authorities for the most part that are performing the raids. But the state is loving the tax dollars that are coming in while the Feds are trying to show their occasional force.
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Taxes are null compared to FORFEITURE?
Then the Paralegals,Clerks,Lawyers,Judges and all the other paper pushers get a turn and chance at earning their money.
Tax is a portion forfeit is the whole enchilada! And then some!
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09/13/12, 01:25 AM
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I wish they would legalize it and tax it super high. If they did, it would help a lot of our economic problems.
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They already tax it see the above post!
And super High!
Wish they tax the crap out of food that would really fix everything.
Every one eats. Just some more then others.
Of coarse some of us provide Our own food.
Much like some provide their own drink and smoke.
How you gou going to TAX that!
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09/13/12, 08:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by where I want to
Actually I suppose it will be like tobacco products. When it's totally legal, there will be increasing evidence of the various health harm caused by its regular use. Then the government will spend money to have ad campaigns to convince people to stop smoking it.
For those of you who do not live where it is pretty much legal, as it is here, you will find that there are problems- like have you ever had to live downwind of a real pothead? Reeks. Driving while high causing accidents? As one guy who ran his motor home off the highway and down an embankment found out- waving his 215 card at the police does not excuse driving while impaired. All the wonderful people robbing each other to steal each other's pot? Police have to respond to that too.
Stupid people will just be more stupid consuming pot. It will have to be regulated just like alcohol. And the rest of the population will just have to live with the results.
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I'm on Prescription Pain Meds,not suppose to drive but admit I do sometimes.Not really no different.I know not right.
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09/13/12, 09:32 AM
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All the wonderful people robbing each other to steal each other's pot? Police have to respond to that too.
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If pot was legal and openly available people wouldn't have to rob each other to get it.
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I wish they would legalize it and tax it super high
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I agree about legalizing it but the higher you tax it, the more it forces it back into the underground economy and we're right back where we started. It's no different than any other product or service that is provided under the table. When people are unsatisfied with the tax burden put upon them they will start to operate outside the system, leading to an initial tax loss and an increase in criminal costs likely resulting in a net loss in income for the government. There is obviously a market and a demand for it which will be supplied by someone anyway, why not take it out of the hands of organized crime and put it in the hands of legitimate citizens?
I don't think there would be a big problem if it was legalized. Everyone I know that wants to smoke it already does. Despite it being illegal it is widely available. Legalize it and let the farmers grow it probably saving a lot of farms. It could be sold legally and taxed bringing in a lot of tax money plus the money saved from the cost of enforcement, prosecution and prison time could be put into other programs.
As for it being a so-called "gateway" drug, most people I know that smoke pot don't do anything else. A couple people don't even drink and nobody I know does coke, heroin or anything else. Most people are just content to have a joint and relax.
Regarding the health effects, I think the concerns are comparable to cigarettes regarding inhaling the smoke and the toxins contained in it. However, cigarettes have a lot of chemicals added to them so pot smoke might be a bit less dangerous.
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09/13/12, 09:58 AM
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If pot was legal and openly available people wouldn't have to rob each other to get it.
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Ya'd think so, wouldn't you? But here, where it is virtually legal as anyone can get a pot card, the news is still full of "home invasions" where a person's personal pot is stolen.
Frankly it's easy to see the proplems that people using pot almost continuously cause. The people who think that they are "perfectly fine and they smoke pot." Even though they have the same stupid conversation with you daily because they can't remember the stupid things they said from the previous day.
I think that the person who stopped smoking pot when their daughter was born was half right, they stopped to protect their child's interest but why would that have been a needed thing is they were so "not effected" by their morning use. Frankly I have seen too many dirty 5 years olds making their own breakfasts because Mom or Dad can't bother to raise themselves from the couch.
No- pot users rationalize their use because they can't see the effects through their own smokey haze.
However, as I said before, stupid people will be stupid whether drinking or smoking pot. They are an irresistable force of dead weight that has to be shouldered by everyone else.
So make it legal everywhere- it no longer makes sense to do otherwise.
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09/13/12, 10:00 AM
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you guys don't want it legalized but decriminalized.
Other wise the Big corporations will control it much as drug cartels do now.
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09/13/12, 10:04 AM
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BTW One of my neighbors has finally "sobered up" when his health took a nose-dive. He developed COPD, had to stop smoking and can now hold a conversation that makes sense. And I haven't seen him drive by with one of his kids hanging on to the roof of his pick-up for a joy ride in a couple of months.
Boy was he depressed for awhile when his handy-dandy fix was gone. But he is doing better now.
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09/13/12, 10:13 AM
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Many people who are under the influence of any type of drugs do not know about the stupid mistakes and decisions they make.
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