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08/23/12, 10:48 AM
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It's so simple really:
Want a house... work, save, buy it... can't afford a big one...start small work up to it. or learn to make the best of what you do have.
Want a new car.. work, save, buy it..can't afford a nice new fancy one... buy one you can afford.. we've all drove clunkers at one time
Want luxury items... work, save, buy... cant afford what you neighbor has... life sucks sometimes but you can live without it
Want college, sometimes we have to work for years before we can afford to go, just makes you more determined to not waste it on silly degrees
Decide to get a loan for any of the above.... pay it back, does your word mean nothing? Nobody forced you to get that loan and it's not the loaners fault you got it.
Want birth control... pay for it, can't afford it abstinence works really well or just do without a luxury item and use the money you saved for it. Make your own coffee instead of buying it. Pack your own lunch.
Decide you want an abortion... thats your choice.. pay for it yourself, or start a charity so like minded people can donate and you don't have to worry about the government controlling your choices.
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08/23/12, 10:53 AM
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That is not the American way.
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08/23/12, 11:00 AM
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I don't think you meant obeisance -- I think you meant to write abstinence.
But other than that...I agree with it all. I didn't realize there was any other way.
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08/23/12, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by snoozy
I don't think you meant obeisance -- I think you meant to write abstinence It's so simple really:.
But other than that...I agree with it all. I didn't realize there was any other way.
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HAHA spell check failed me
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08/23/12, 11:40 AM
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Look, you. We can't have this kind of logic running amok here.
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08/23/12, 11:52 AM
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Thats just being mean, wanting people to work for what they want.
If mommie & daddie won't supply me I'll ask uncle sam.
I'm not getting my hands dirty.
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08/23/12, 04:29 PM
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So, from what I understand from the OP, you want us to go back 50 years? Abandon all the progress of the past decades and be responsible?
Don't go into politics.
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08/23/12, 04:52 PM
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Yes but when your wages drop to a quarter of what you was getting at your so called Secure Job you have to do something.
But you could lay down have a few Kids and have it all,including College.
big rockpile
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08/25/12, 02:57 AM
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That is not the American way.
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It was in my grandparents and parents time!
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08/25/12, 07:05 AM
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We have become a society that values leisure, entertainment and consumption above all things.
Most people don't dream of becoming a neurosurgeon, rocket scientist or CEO of a Fortune 500 company. They dream of winning the $10 million lottery and never having to work another day in their lives.
(Americans spent $58 billion -- that's billion with a "b" -- on lottery tickets in 2010.)
It's sad because we're being sold a bill of goods here, and shoddy ones at that. It is productivity and accomplishment that bring true happiness ... not endless leisure and consumption.
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08/25/12, 08:39 AM
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I have a very cheap method of birth control my mama told me about! I only costs the price of ONE ASPIRIN!!!! Take said aspirin and hold between both knees. Don't let aspirin drop. Works every time!
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08/25/12, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dixiegal62
Want a house... work, save, buy it... can't afford a big one...start small work up to it. or learn to make the best of what you do have.
Want a new car.. work, save, buy it..can't afford a nice new fancy one... buy one you can afford.. we've all drove clunkers at one time
Want luxury items... work, save, buy... cant afford what you neighbor has... life sucks sometimes but you can live without it
Want college, sometimes we have to work for years before we can afford to go, just makes you more determined to not waste it on silly degrees
Decide to get a loan for any of the above.... pay it back, does your word mean nothing? Nobody forced you to get that loan and it's not the loaners fault you got it.
Want birth control... pay for it, can't afford it abstinence works really well or just do without a luxury item and use the money you saved for it. Make your own coffee instead of buying it. Pack your own lunch.
Decide you want an abortion... thats your choice.. pay for it yourself, or start a charity so like minded people can donate and you don't have to worry about the government controlling your choices.
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You are so old fashioned..... I like it....James
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08/25/12, 11:17 AM
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great first post, and great thread. Now if we could just get it applied across the nation.
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08/25/12, 11:29 AM
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I don't know too many people who's wages could pay for any of those things, no matter how long they worked. Prices for necessities are too high and wages are too low. Not too many opportunities for advancement either.
Nice message but over simplified and about 35 years out dated. Most of those jobs and opportunities went bye-bye....outsourcing, illegal immigrants, and new technologies have damaged the job market badly.
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08/25/12, 01:20 PM
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But if people did that they wouldn't have their bass boat, their jet skis (one for each of them), their ATVs (again one for each, can't have someone left out of the fun), their smart cell phones (yeah, one each), total package cable TV with a TV in every room, their computers (everyone has to have one of those as well) and the rest of the "necessary" stuff.
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08/28/12, 05:30 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Originally Posted by Ozarks Tom
So, from what I understand from the OP, you want us to go back 50 years? Abandon all the progress of the past decades and be responsible?
Don't go into politics.
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A couple of points here... this attitude would be going back a bit over 80 years.. to the Roosevelt administration. I also question the word "progress" being used in this context. Unless of course you mean the progressive debt load that has been increasing year after year in this country due to the overspending of revenues... again, since FDR began this nonsense back in the thirties. If that is the case then I would say yes... its time to abandon that "progress", and start paying off our horrendous national debt and become a nation of wealth again. 
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08/28/12, 05:42 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Prices for necessities are too high and wages are too low.
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Well now, consider this for a moment.... the ONLY expense involved with bringing those "necessities" to your door is wages. The cost of those veggies on the table, the lumber for your home, the automobile you drive, and the fuel you put in it are all FREE for the taking. Some fellers work, and expect to be compensated for their labor to cut the trees, and other fellers expect to get paid for milling them into lumber, still others want to be paid for hauling them across country so you can pick them up down at the lumberyard and build your house with them. Same with our food... its all free... with wages adding "value" as it goes down the line to your table. Oil is free for the asking... as long as you are willing to pay the wages required to get it out of the ground, refine it, ship it, and put it in your gas tank. Every scrap of your automobile is free... if you dont count the labor involved with mining the ore, the wages paid to those who process the ore, or the other raw materials and then produce and assemble the parts into that marvelous machine parked in your driveway. WAGES are the ONLY thing that is reflected in the price of our necessities. All of the materials... are FREE
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08/29/12, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dixiegal62
Want a house... work, save, buy it... can't afford a big one...start small work up to it. or learn to make the best of what you do have.
Want a new car.. work, save, buy it..can't afford a nice new fancy one... buy one you can afford.. we've all drove clunkers at one time
Want luxury items... work, save, buy... cant afford what you neighbor has... life sucks sometimes but you can live without it
Want college, sometimes we have to work for years before we can afford to go, just makes you more determined to not waste it on silly degrees
Decide to get a loan for any of the above.... pay it back, does your word mean nothing? Nobody forced you to get that loan and it's not the loaners fault you got it.
Want birth control... pay for it, can't afford it abstinence works really well or just do without a luxury item and use the money you saved for it. Make your own coffee instead of buying it. Pack your own lunch.
Decide you want an abortion... thats your choice.. pay for it yourself, or start a charity so like minded people can donate and you don't have to worry about the government controlling your choices.
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If you were to do all these things you still need to remember that the truth is that you didn't pay for any of it, the Govt did. ( at least that's what our idiot president thinks)
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08/30/12, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby
Well now, consider this for a moment.... the ONLY expense involved with bringing those "necessities" to your door is wages. The cost of those veggies on the table, the lumber for your home, the automobile you drive, and the fuel you put in it are all FREE for the taking. Some fellers work, and expect to be compensated for their labor to cut the trees, and other fellers expect to get paid for milling them into lumber, still others want to be paid for hauling them across country so you can pick them up down at the lumberyard and build your house with them. Same with our food... its all free... with wages adding "value" as it goes down the line to your table. Oil is free for the asking... as long as you are willing to pay the wages required to get it out of the ground, refine it, ship it, and put it in your gas tank. Every scrap of your automobile is free... if you dont count the labor involved with mining the ore, the wages paid to those who process the ore, or the other raw materials and then produce and assemble the parts into that marvelous machine parked in your driveway. WAGES are the ONLY thing that is reflected in the price of our necessities. All of the materials... are FREE
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I guess you're completely ignoring the huge profits that the corporate monopolies are taking from those necessities. What you are paying for these days are corporate profits and Taiwan wages. There is no doubt that the bog corporations are taking record profits and the gap between wealthy and working poor is getting bigger and bigger.
You're model also completely ignores inflation, and who do you think profits from that? Not the average American.
Bottom line is that a much lower percentage of corporate profits are going to pay wages due to outsourcing of jobs, and a much higher percentage of profit is taken as a result.
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08/30/12, 08:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dixiegal62
Want a house... work, save, buy it... can't afford a big one...start small work up to it. or learn to make the best of what you do have.
Want a new car.. work, save, buy it..can't afford a nice new fancy one... buy one you can afford.. we've all drove clunkers at one time
Want luxury items... work, save, buy... cant afford what you neighbor has... life sucks sometimes but you can live without it
Want college, sometimes we have to work for years before we can afford to go, just makes you more determined to not waste it on silly degrees
Decide to get a loan for any of the above.... pay it back, does your word mean nothing? Nobody forced you to get that loan and it's not the loaners fault you got it.
Want birth control... pay for it, can't afford it abstinence works really well or just do without a luxury item and use the money you saved for it. Make your own coffee instead of buying it. Pack your own lunch.
Decide you want an abortion... thats your choice.. pay for it yourself, or start a charity so like minded people can donate and you don't have to worry about the government controlling your choices.
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