Global warming, green living all that crap

[TNHermit]

It occurred to me today that if people are really serious about all that stuff then the first place they should be eliminating toxic waste is them selves. The should eat of what ever it takes so they don't have to go to the bathroom. After all human waste is toxic. Just think of all the paper and trees it would save. purer water , less disease which means lower medical costs. The benefits are innumerable. And those that are serious should take the first step of eliminating toilet paper, toilets and septic or what ever system. the should buy a hazardous waste system and use that. and leaves or something. Then they can come pick it up, decontaminate it and compost it..

Next should be getting animals eating right so they don't produce waste. Once we accomplish that we can start on the other stuff.

[emdeengee]

Actually keeping your waste inside your body is toxic to the body. Elimination is the natural process. With 7 billion people on the planet there is a lot of poop to go around and many countries are still very primitive in their recycling. Dumping in the ocean is still going on but with the melting of the Arctic and Antarctic ice caps the ocean levels kept very high and in filtration the mantra is - dilution is the solution.

I for one am very thankful that where we live we have the modern technologies to channel and corral our waste and process it to make it clean again. Modern filtration plants clean the waste water to incredible purity into which you can even use the final tank to breed fry. And the solid waste is cleaned and dried and used as fertilizer. That is pretty green as far as I am concerned.

[Sawmill Jim]

Open the windows that paint thinner is taking its toll

Most of the greenies i know are the other way and are in need of caster oil .

[TNHermit]

Originally Posted by emdeengee

Actually keeping your waste inside your body is toxic to the body. Elimination is the natural process. With 7 billion people on the planet there is a lot of poop to go around and many countries are still very primitive in their recycling. Dumping in the ocean is still going on but with the melting of the Arctic and Antarctic ice caps the ocean levels kept very high and in filtration the mantra is - dilution is the solution.

I for one am very thankful that where we live we have the modern technologies to channel and corral our waste and process it to make it clean again. Modern filtration plants clean the waste water to incredible purity into which you can even use the final tank to breed fry. And the solid waste is cleaned and dried and used as fertilizer. That is pretty green as far as I am concerned.

The fact that we have the technology is not the point. Its the fact that we produce toxic waste. we scream,yell,legislate at every phase of every industry about the waste they produce. So why should we be any different. The govt should come in and force the issue. Not leave it up to some thinking entrepreneur to find a way to do it and make money at the same time.
These guys with septic systems and all that are making millions and that si not fair. How do we know they aren'[t racist or they prefer the rich. What about people that can't afford the same equipment as the rich.

[TNHermit]

Originally Posted by Sawmill Jim

Open the windows that paint thinner is taking its toll

Most of the greenies i know are the other way and are in need of caster oil .

Dude

I've had it with your constantly mocking me.

as soon as you settle that estate I will be expecting a check. Its only fair!! If I don't get one i will call the logging union and get a BA to start a law suit again you.

[emdeengee]

Originally Posted by TNHermit

The fact that we have the technology is not the point. Its the fact that we produce toxic waste. we scream,yell,legislate at every phase of every industry about the waste they produce. So why should we be any different. The govt should come in and force the issue. Not leave it up to some thinking entrepreneur to find a way to do it and make money at the same time.
These guys with septic systems and all that are making millions and that si not fair. How do we know they aren'[t racist or they prefer the rich. What about people that can't afford the same equipment as the rich.

We produce waste as do all living creatures.

Some of the gas that men (and some women) produce is vile (can clear a room in two seconds) but not toxic.

The government does control human waste and has for decades . Most sewage plants are government owned and certainly the sewer lines are. People can opt out and have - using septic tanks, composting toilets and even just honey holes. There are laws for installation and even the insurance companies make a profit but of course most people who install a septic system WANT it to work properly so are willing to take advice and support laws that ensure that their neighbour's crap does not pollute their land or water or that kids are wading ankle deep in sewage in the school yard.

[TNHermit]

Originally Posted by emdeengee

We produce waste as do all living creatures.

Some of the gas that men (and some women) produce is vile (can clear a room in two seconds) but not toxic.

The government does control human waste and has for decades . Most sewage plants are government owned and certainly the sewer lines are. People can opt out and have - using septic tanks, composting toilets and even just honey holes. There are laws for installation and even the insurance companies make a profit but of course most people who install a septic system WANT it to work properly so are willing to take advice and support laws that ensure that their neighbour's crap does not pollute their land or water or that kids are wading ankle deep in sewage in the school yard.

The fact is WE STILL PRODUCE IT. If industry is being mandated NOt to produce it why should we be allowed to. Industry is people too so to be fair we should not be producing waste. Even if we do have the system to process it.

[emdeengee]

Industry is - and should be - mandated to reduce and control toxic waste for the benefit of all - people, animals and environment. They still produce it during whatever production they are involved in but if there are better ways of handling it, disposing of it or recycling it and they are not doing it (most industries do not police themselves with any more effectiveness than the fox guarding the hen house) then legislation steps in. And legislation has already let everyone down enough. There is no safe way to even store nuclear waste or coal fly ash.

If you feel so strongly about human toxic poop I suggest a boycott on your own production.

[TNHermit]

Originally Posted by emdeengee

Industry is - and should be - mandated to reduce and control toxic waste for the benefit of all - people, animals and environment. They still produce it during whatever production they are involved in but if there are better ways of handling it, disposing of it or recycling it and they are not doing it (most industries do not police themselves with any more effectiveness than the fox guarding the hen house) then legislation steps in. And legislation has already let everyone down enough. There is no safe way to even store nuclear waste or coal fly ash.

If you feel so strongly about human toxic poop I suggest a boycott on your own production.

I'm just using liberal logic trying to help you guys out. I bet human waste kills more people than industrial waste. Just look at Africa and places like it. Not much industry there but lots of disease.

[naturelover]

Em, he's just trolling. Don't feed the troll.



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[emdeengee]

Originally Posted by naturelover

Em, he's just trolling. Don't feed the troll.



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LOL! I know. I like feeding all creatures - even if they do poop.

[TNHermit]

Originally Posted by naturelover

Em, he's just trolling. Don't feed the troll.



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Trolling???

How is my logic any different than liberal logic. If I replace people with industry its the same. And you can't deny that we cause a multitude of deaths. Raw milk, Ice cream stands. Its endless

[Sawmill Jim]

Think one thread is about obese people and health and the government so when not if they start regulating food intake it will be a mater of time before they tax the exit .

Here towns you have to use their sewer service and water no wells in city limits . I think the first poop they gonna regulate will be pets in a city limit where it will be handled by the toxic wast pick up services .

I can't wait for them to start hooking cows and people up to a device to capture methane gas . Yep cows are on their radar . But not much an't .

The Check will be in the Male

[Heritagefarm]

Originally Posted by TNHermit

The fact that we have the technology is not the point. Its the fact that we produce toxic waste. we scream,yell,legislate at every phase of every industry about the waste they produce. So why should we be any different. The govt should come in and force the issue. Not leave it up to some thinking entrepreneur to find a way to do it and make money at the same time.
These guys with septic systems and all that are making millions and that si not fair. How do we know they aren'[t racist or they prefer the rich. What about people that can't afford the same equipment as the rich.

Humans produce natural waste. Unless you yourself are taking in prodigious quantities of toxins, natural human waste is simply a collection of unneeded food material (think cellulose, fibers etc.), bacteria, and substances harmful to your body. However, many of these toxins are biodegradeable and have no effect whatsoever on the environment.
Industrial waste, however, tales it's toll more quickly. Now, if you started dumping human sludge into a river, and toxic industrial sludge into a river, the effects would be similar: large amounts of degradation. However, human waste is better managed than that. Industrial waste lingers, and posseses a strong potential to damage many forms of life, from beneficial bacteria (yes, they exist and they exist in your waste) to fish to animals to humans and of course, plants.
If you want legalization of toxic sludge dumping in your area, fine by me. But I'm not moving into your area, and if I were in your area, I'd either file charges or move, no offense intended.

[Tiempo]

Does doody cause cancer?

[TNHermit]

People, People!! Listen UP

The idea is to NOT create it. Just like were forcing industry to not create it, Just because we have the system to deal with it is not good enough. The goal is not to create it in the first place. Is it that hard to grasp??

[Tiempo]

Good grief Charley Brown.

[naturelover]

We can all become Inedians or Breatharians.

TN, you can be the first HT'er to do that and then let us all know how that's working out for you.
Inedia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[TNHermit]

Gotta admit I'm totally stumped. I figured the enviros would see and agree with me and jump right on the band wagon. You'all seem so resistant to the idea but when it domes to business, I mean after all, after we have saddled business and industry with every regulation we can think of so they are landfill free and environmentally pure we wont have stopped the production of toxic waste by exponential numbers. And that doesn't even consider the amount of CO2 we produce.

Maybe one should search youtube for George Carlin and global warming. Don't want to violate the PC rules

[sevenmmm]

Originally Posted by TNHermit

It occurred to me today that if people are really serious about all that stuff then the first place they should be eliminating toxic waste is them selves. The should eat of what ever it takes so they don't have to go to the bathroom. After all human waste is toxic. Just think of all the paper and trees it would save. purer water , less disease which means lower medical costs. The benefits are innumerable. And those that are serious should take the first step of eliminating toilet paper, toilets and septic or what ever system. the should buy a hazardous waste system and use that. and leaves or something. Then they can come pick it up, decontaminate it and compost it..

Next should be getting animals eating right so they don't produce waste. Once we accomplish that we can start on the other stuff.

I bet this is the best you can do.