Unemployed Folks Now Turn To Diability

EDDIE BUCK · #1 02/19/12, 08:03 PM

When Unemployment Runs Out!!
No unemployment check,how about a disability one?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...efits-run-out/

plowjockey · #2 02/19/12, 08:11 PM

I'm going mad from working!

Where's my disability check?

willow_girl · #3 02/19/12, 11:05 PM

This doesn't surprise me.

When Michigan ended its general assistance program in the early 1990s, many of the former recipients transitioned neatly to SSI -- which actually paid them more than twice as much each month!

HTG_zoo · #4 02/19/12, 11:07 PM

Well, if you are disabled and toughing it out working, then you get laid off, your odds of finding something else are slim to none now. So why not apply for SSI you are eligible for? It's still hard to get on as far as I can tell. (still going round and round with my bf's application)

EDDIE BUCK · #5 02/20/12, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HTG_zoo

Well, if you are disabled and toughing it out working, then you get laid off, your odds of finding something else are slim to none now. So why not apply for SSI you are eligible for? It's still hard to get on as far as I can tell. (still going round and round with my bf's application)

That round and round part I'm mighty familiar with.Hope your BF's comes out better than I did.I had three lawyers helping me and I still got turned down.

They said the reason was, what the Dr at the plant I worked at said."Even though I had had two major back surgery's for ruptured disc's ,and at times loosing feelings in my legs,plus my back won't allow me to stoop,,he thought maybe I could possibly do some light secretarial work".

That was all SS wanted to hear,he might just as well given me a clean bill of health.I could still do something,so not eligible for disability .To be honest, most of the time I could do some type of light work.But there are also days I can't get out of bed or out of a chair without help.How long would my new job keep me hired with me home in bed for 4 or five days per month.

thesedays · #6 02/20/12, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by willow_girl

This doesn't surprise me.

When Michigan ended its general assistance program in the early 1990s, many of the former recipients transitioned neatly to SSI -- which actually paid them more than twice as much each month!

Plus, SSI cannot be garnisheed for child support or other reasons. If you get the right doctor, you can just say you have back pain or bipolar disorder, and you're set for life. This makes things so much harder for people who really do have disabilities.

jwal10 · #7 02/20/12, 10:06 AM

Sweetie has fought for disability for 6 years. Fibro and neck trauma from 2 bad auto wrecks that were no fault of her own. Some days she is hardly able to get out of bed, taking a shower wears her out for the morning. Doesn't dare drive because the medication makes her brain so foggy and slow on bad days. Some days she barely functions because she can't react fast enough to keep from falling. After 6 years it is almost pointless because she hasn't been able to work and SSI says WE make enough. She is discouraged when she sees people get on right away with no outward disability....James

kenworth · #8 02/20/12, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thesedays

Plus, SSI cannot be garnisheed for child support or other reasons. If you get the right doctor, you can just say you have back pain or bipolar disorder, and you're set for life. This makes things so much harder for people who really do have disabilities.

Did you not know that 3rd party SSI doctors usually sort this out? Kinda hard to get past them.

bruce2288 · #9 02/21/12, 08:56 AM

I am sure that some people who are truly disabled get denieded coverage, But come on 5%between 25-64, 1 out of every 20 people in that age group are too disabled to work? I believe we have more people getting the benefit who shouldn't than people denied who should qualify.
I read 25% of those unemployed since 2009 are getting disability.

Yvonne's hubby · #10 02/21/12, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kenworth

Did you not know that 3rd party SSI doctors usually sort this out? Kinda hard to get past them.

I dunno if SSI uses the same 3rd party docs that the good folks at SSDI use, but those ones were pretty good docs. They seemed to know a lot more about my medical condition than my doctors did.... and never even met me, much less examine me!

plowjockey · #11 02/21/12, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce2288

I am sure that some people who are truly disabled get denieded coverage, But come on 5%between 25-64, 1 out of every 20 people in that age group are too disabled to work? I believe we have more people getting the benefit who shouldn't than people denied who should qualify.
I read 25% of those unemployed since 2009 are getting disability.

Many are now discovering, what some Wefare recipients, have known for many, many years.

Why work at all, when you can get money for free?

Hollowdweller · #12 02/21/12, 03:20 PM

Just having a back problem does not qualify you for disability.

There are people running around and working every day with ruptured discs etc.

Also unlike workers compensation where you get benefits if you cannot do your past job, under SSI and SSDI you have to be unable to perform any job, unless you are over 55 and then you can only do lighter jobs if you have transfereable skills and they are within your area.

That said once you reach the law judge level it is easier to get. A few years back they changed the regs to allow for the judge to take into consideration a persons statements about how their problems limit them. Meaning 2 people can have exactly the same organic problems, but the person who SAYS they are worse could be allowed and then the one who says they are less worse could be denied.

Theoretically the judge has to say that their actual condition could potentially cause such severe restrictions but in reality they allow people all the time that just have aches and pains that others go to work every day with.

Both Jimmy Carter and Reagan made it harder to get but there was such a backlash they loosened the regs up again.

But in a broader perspective it's amazing how many homesteaders I know who bale hay, lift heavy feed sacks or even work every day under the table who also get SSI/SSDI. It's a huge cash cow for people.

TheMartianChick · #13 02/21/12, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HTG_zoo

Well, if you are disabled and toughing it out working, then you get laid off, your odds of finding something else are slim to none now. So why not apply for SSI you are eligible for? It's still hard to get on as far as I can tell. (still going round and round with my bf's application)

This is what I have seen as well. I have a relative that has severe rheumatoid arthritis. He was born with it and wasn't expected to live beyond the age of 18. He has always fought to work though, he looks so fragile and crooked, that I'd almost be afraid to hire him for most light duty jobs.

He just retired at age 62 from a job in a toll booth on the Thruway. If he had been downsized during this recession, there is almost no way that anyone would hire him for a job over an able-bodied person. He would have ended up collecting disability, but he would have been entitled to it due to his physical condition.

SquashNut · #14 02/21/12, 06:28 PM

This has been going on since way before the crash of 2008. The guy who put our roof on was on Disability.