Urinating Soliders

tnokie · #1 01/12/12, 10:38 PM

I just hate it for those poor soliders who got caught in the video supposedly urinating of afghan bodies. They are talking about chargeing them with war crimes of all things. Has any one ask how many of their friends and comrades got shot and hurt or killed since they have been there? How many times have we seen Americans beheaded,or shot and burned and hung from bridges! Jeese its war over there. They are young gung-ho soliders trained to kill by our military. Of course they are going to do silly things and act out. Hey! they know it could just as easyly have been them laying there! I watched the video on youtube and they didn't even ----! There was no wet sand or wet spots on the bodys except where they were shot. They were just posing like they were for the picture! Not the smartest thing to do but sure as hell not a war crime! If I had a live or die fight with someone I would proably ---- on them too! Its just a shame that now there lives are going to be a living hell because we put them in a position that caused such victor wins all feelings.I hope others will join me and say a prayer for them. They are going to need a lot of them!

kenworth · #2 01/12/12, 10:47 PM

We all have our moments of poor judgement. War crime? I don't think so.

Old Vet · #3 01/12/12, 10:54 PM

this is what happens during a police action where you don't have a lot for the Marines to do. In most cases that wouldn't happen if there was another battle happening close by or it would be overlooked by the brass. But today with every cell phone that takes pictures in every body's pocket and posting on You Tube so common you must take care not to be caught doing something like this. Is it a war crime? If you call that decoration of a body then yes. If not then no.

frugalmomma2 · #4 01/12/12, 10:56 PM

This was wrong no matter how you look at it. Ask yourself this question. What if that were my friend or family member lying on the ground with the enemy standing over them would I dismiss it as young gung-ho boys? I think you would have a different opinion.

Sonshine · #5 01/12/12, 11:23 PM

Even enemies should be treated with more respect than that. This was just flat out wrong. Just because they do things that are repulsive to us, that means we should lower our standards and do something disgusting? They're just feeding the propaganda machine.

Tom in TN · #6 01/13/12, 12:05 AM

I'm 100% behind the Marines. The only poor judgement shown was by the moron who video taped them and the even worse moron who made the tape public.

Semper Fi,

Tom in TN

RebelDigger · #7 01/13/12, 03:46 AM

I am the mother of a prior Marine who is an Iraqi war vet as well as a son who is an Army Iraqi vet (I am also the sister of two Vietnam vets and the daughter of a WWII, Korea 22 year navy vet) and I have to say that what those fellers did was wrong headed and disrespectful. If either of my sons had done something like that (which they would never do, I raised them better) I would have been very upset with them. We don't need to be stooping to the enemy's level. Our country is supposed to be about excellence and high moral character, not cloddish behavior on the field of battle.

naturelover · #8 01/13/12, 03:49 AM

Desecration of the dead is a violation of the Geneva Convention - so yes, it is a war crime. They should be tried and convicted accordingly.

The only reason some of you are making excuses and condoning it is because it was your own boys who were doing it.

If it had been your boys who were dead and getting peed on by the enemy you would all be frothing at the mouth and ranting about it.

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Bearfootfarm · #9 01/13/12, 03:54 AM

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If it had been your boys who were dead and getting peed on by the enemy you would all be frothing at the mouth and ranting about it.

^ What she said

EasyDay · #10 01/13/12, 06:34 AM

It was a bad judgment call on the part of the Marines. No one should desecrate the dead. War crime? NO!

I get so sick of some crying foul based on the Geneva Convention. The US is the ONLY country that even plays by those rules! Where is your outrage against the actions of every enemy nation that HAVE no rules? Apologists will say that Americans that are tortured, beheaded, and hung from poles for amusement deserved it! Disgusting!

Gary in ohio · #11 01/13/12, 06:38 AM

While not the classiest act, I don't personally see an issue with it. We justify that Killing them was ok, but taking a ---- on them is bad?

Now if you want to go down the Desecration discussion, take a look at the definition of Desecration. "the act of depriving something of its sacred character, or the disrespectful or contemptuous treatment of that which is held to be sacred or holy by a group or individual."

So Christians hold "life" as sacred, should the people killing our troops be held for war crimes.

preparing · #12 01/13/12, 06:42 AM

An Army Mom here. Our son is in Afg. right now.

This is War folks, WAR!

Break things, kill enemy. And we worry about men peeing on the dead enemy soldier?

Get a life!

watcher · #13 01/13/12, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kenworth

We all have our moments of poor judgement. War crime? I don't think so.

In the strictest since they are. Its against the Laws of Land Warfare to mistreat the dead and is specifically listed as a "War Crime".

The Law of Land Warfare

504. Other Types of War Crimes

c. Maltreatment of dead bodies.

But in my opinion its PC run amok. You can shoot them, you can blow them up, you can even burn them alive but don't you DARE wiz on them after they are dead!!!

Laura Zone 5 · #14 01/13/12, 07:38 AM

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EasyDay · #15 01/13/12, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

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fishhead · #16 01/13/12, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by watcher

In the strictest since they are. Its against the Laws of Land Warfare to mistreat the dead and is specifically listed as a "War Crime".

The Law of Land Warfare

504. Other Types of War Crimes

c. Maltreatment of dead bodies.

But in my opinion its PC run amok. You can shoot them, you can blow them up, you can even burn them alive but don't you DARE wiz on them after they are dead!!!

If they are charged so should every member of Congress who sent them to that country.

beowoulf90 · #17 01/13/12, 09:12 AM

While the act itself is wrong, and they should be reprimanded for it. Charging them with a war crime is also wrong!

So how many of the enemy's soldiers have been charged for dragging the dead bodies through the streets, or should I say the headless bodies?

Oh wait it's not wrong when they do it, it's only wrong when an American Soldier does it..

Sorry I think political correctness and those who believe in it should be tried for treason against their country..

HDRider · #18 01/13/12, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by frugalmomma2

This was wrong no matter how you look at it. Ask yourself this question. What if that were my friend or family member lying on the ground with the enemy standing over them would I dismiss it as young gung-ho boys? I think you would have a different opinion.

I would pi## on them if that person was my enemy. Is doing that worse than shooting them DEAD?

This is insane PC BS.

Jena · #19 01/13/12, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by naturelover

Desecration of the dead is a violation of the Geneva Convention - so yes, it is a war crime. They should be tried and convicted accordingly.

The only reason some of you are making excuses and condoning it is because it was your own boys who were doing it.

If it had been your boys who were dead and getting peed on by the enemy you would all be frothing at the mouth and ranting about it.

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Agreed. I'm pretty sure soldiers are told what is allowed within the laws regarding war and they made their choice. They did the crime, they ought to do the time.

watcher · #20 01/13/12, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fishhead

If they are charged so should every member of Congress who sent them to that country.

That statement makes NO sense at all.