Informative, and mind boggling

[cornbread]

Informative, and mind boggling! And I Don't Care What Race Your Are!

I now find this to be RIDICULOUS.

I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts...

1.$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...suecenters7fd8

2.$22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify
at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3.$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on

Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4.$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on

primary and secondary school education

for children here illegally and they

cannot speak a word of English!

Verify
at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip...01/ldt..0.HTML


5.$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify
at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip...01/ldt.01.HTML


6.$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANsc...01/ldt.01.HTML




7.30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.


Verify
at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANscrip...01/ldt.01.HTML


8.$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.


Verify
at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML


9.$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.


Verify
at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC RI PTS/0604/01/ldt. ;


10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the U.S.


Verify
at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt..01.HTML<


11. There were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border, also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the US from the Southern border.


Verify
at: Homeland Security Report:

12.The National policy Institute estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.


Verify
at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute./...eportation.PDF

13.Illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.


Verify
at: http://www/ .



14.The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .

Verify
at:
http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping
$ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS

A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME,

HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING

THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS

$338,300,000,000.00 WHICH

WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE

THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF

THIS COUNTRY.

Are we THAT Stupid?
YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE U.S. CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!

[Tiempo]

All the links are duds.

[J.T.M.]

Linkys no worky ..............

[Tiempo]

Looks like because the c+p is old, all the CIS links are from 2004.

[HeelSpur]

Half the people at the flea market yesterday were mexicans. When I got back to my town there was 8 cars of koreans stopped at a service station to gas up. There's only one group of people to blame and thats our politicians. I now know how the indians felt when ------ came in and took their land and its a bad feeling especially when they get special privaledges that we don't.

[joseph97297]

So what is there to blame the politicians for? Illegal immigrants, yes, but do you know if those folks (those mexicans and Koreans) were illegals? Heck, for all you know they could be third or fourth gen Americans....

and sorry, who is taking your land? My land, that has been in my family for 4 generations, is still in my family, what exactly are you stressing over or trying to say?

[HeelSpur]

Originally Posted by joseph97297

So what is there to blame the politicians for? Illegal immigrants, yes, but do you know if those folks (those mexicans and Koreans) were illegals? Heck, for all you know they could be third or fourth gen Americans....

and sorry, who is taking your land? My land, that has been in my family for 4 generations, is still in my family, what exactly are you stressing over or trying to say?

I don't know them and don't care to know them. Most are here illegally sucking the system dry or getting unfair advantages that we americans don't have the priveledge of. And yes I blame the filthy greedy politicians for everything because they are the main cause of everything. Thats the way I feel and I don't give a ---- who knows.

[joseph97297]

So, spouting off and making absurd assumptions is how to handle it? I don't know those people, but they look different, so they gotta be doing something bad, right? and trust me, I am sure your sentiments are equally felt.


And as for blaming politicians, most, if not 99 percent of the blame should rest on the American Public, the voters that is, after all, they are the ones who elected and keep electing those "filthy greedy politicians", right? But let's blame the politicians......it is the easiest thing to do (regardless about accurate or truth).

[Yldrosie]

Amen, Heelspur. totally agree.

[Tiempo]

Originally Posted by HeelSpur

Half the people at the flea market yesterday were mexicans. When I got back to my town there was 8 cars of koreans stopped at a service station to gas up. There's only one group of people to blame and thats our politicians. I now know how the indians felt when ------ came in and took their land and its a bad feeling especially when they get special privaledges that we don't.

I've been hired by people who sound like you. Every once in a while one pops up, thankfully not often.

Like the one woman, desperate for help, sooooooo grateful that I came out, praising my skills...but she went off on a rant about immigrants, "ruining my country, we have to stop them ALL from coming in, get the ones that are here out NOW!...I'm moving to Montana..they don't have immigrants there...blah blah blah...and I'm soooo happy to have found you...it's so hard to find anyone good, see you in six weeks?"

Sorry lady, glad you liked my work but this immigrant isn't coming back, enjoy looking for someone else.

I guess because I'm white and have grey (round) eyes and red hair I don't count as an immigrant, even though my accent is a dead giveaway. I hope she learned something that day, though I doubt it.

The reason we have an illeagle immigrant problem in the US is because many illeagle immigrants find the conditions here much better than what's in their own country.

Politicians, big business, and the wealthy encourage illeagle immigration because the immigrants provide a pool of cheap labor. It is said that illeagle immigrants take jobs citizens won't do. This is spin. Illeagle immigrants will do jobs for less money than citizens. If we could kick the illeagles out, there would be less unemployment.

The answer is to make it unattractive for illeagles to come here. Take away their jobs, medical care, education for their children, welfare, drivers liscenses, credit cards, and the provision that children born here are automatically citizens and there will be no reason for them to stay or come here. We won't have to spend money to send them back or keep them out, they will go on their own.

To take away the jobs we need to make it a crime to hire an illeagle, with a stiff fine for doing so. No employer is going to hire an illeagle if they could be fined so much that they won't save any money in wages by doing so. There is a loophole in that there are counterfit green cards in circulation. The counterfits are copies of legitimate green cards so if an employer checks everything seem legit. There may be 20 people working using the same green card. If you required employeers to submit the info from their green card employees to a central computer the duplication could be caught easily.

Get your representatives to take away the other perks that illeagle immigrants get. There is no reason someone breaking the law should get rewarded. What part of "illeagle" don't you understand?

[beccachow]

Nimrod, they don't understand ANY part of illegal. They are moving to change the verbage for what this class of people are called. A rose by any other name is STILL a rose.

There is not one person here who has a problem with any one here legally. I have NEVER read of one person who has an issue with that. I don't understand why folks don't get what we are driving at by the term "illegal." Illegal immigrants and immigrants are totally different.

Tiempo, I am sorry you were blindsided by this lady's comments. You would be welcome to come here any time you want and work on my boys!!!

[Hollowdweller]

Illegals are a huge drain on the system.

The problem is as long as big agribusiness and corporations continue to pay substandard wages those people will come here to do those jobs.

In a lot of ways in the South illegals have replaced the slaves as a source of cheap agricultural labor. In the same way that blacks once were at the same time looked down on yet needed to keep the economy going so is it now with illegals.

If you look at the price of food vs the average income in the US, historically the price of food is very low currently. If we raised the wages of farm workers and other manual laborers then food prices would rise but at the same time the illegals would be replaced by US citizens.

Also if farm labor wages rose it would help all the homesteaders and small farmers who at the low rate cannot compete with big agribusiness due to their cheap labor and economies of scale.

I think of jobs that people used to do when I was a kid that paid a living wage. Now there's no way a family could exsist with the dad working that kind of job or even BOTH parents.

That is because of the downward pressure put on wages by companies hiring both legal and illegal immigrants and by US companies outsourcing our jobs.

This HAS kept inflation down but this policy has now run it's course where US workers are not only having trouble buying even cheap imported goods on their salaries but where we sold out our manufacturing base they don't even have any jobs TO buy the cheap goods.

It was bound to happen.

Henry Ford paid high wages when he started his car business because he wanted his workers to be able to buy his cars. This is a lesson US companies have now forgotten.

Also where essentially 30 years of conservative tax policy has cut taxes for the wealthy(the top marginal rate was 70% when Reagan took office and 35% today) forcing the federal gov't to cut aid to the states, which means most states have to provide services to these illegals and others by regressive taxes and fees on the working class like sales taxes and user fees so that fuels resentment at the illegals and poor even more.

It's a huge problem.

[Tiempo]

Tiempo, I am sorry you were blindsided by this lady's comments. You would be welcome to come here any time you want and work on my boys!!!
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Thank you Becca

No, people here don't generally have a problem with legal immigrants, I've only ever seen one post from someone who baltantly did and that was a while ago, though HS's comment is a little ambiguous on that point...so I'm not sure where s/he stands.

However, we do often see posts by people (like HS's post) who automatically assume that everyone who looks foreign must be illegal.

[Bearfootfarm]

No, people here don't generally have a problem with legal immigrants

There's the keyword to all these conversations.

When the vast majority use the term "immigrant", they mean the "illegal" variety

(But you know that already)

[ghmerrill]

We need to OPEN our borders, not close them, spending billions of dollars doing something that is about as easy as sweeping sand off the beach. Open the borders, anyone can immigrate end who can get a sponsor to agree to the immigrants financial upkeep, and place a bond of enough to send the person home if they can't/won't be a productive citizen. do not allow any social services to immigrants for a period of time, say 10 years.

There are lots of productive immigrants, and we need to encourage that.

[Tiempo]

Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm

There's the keyword to all these conversations.

When the vast majority use the term "immigrant", they mean the "illegal" variety

(But you know that already)

In the context of the rest of my post, what was the point of this comment?

[Bearfootfarm]

In the context of the rest of my post, what was the point of this comment?

The point is she probably wasn't talking about LEGAL immigrants at all, so you had no reason to feel offended.

No one is talking about LEGAL immigrants except you

[tarbe]

Originally Posted by Tiempo

In the context of the rest of my post, what was the point of this comment?

When you read (hear) "immigrant" in a rant, insert "illegal" before it.

That's what I am hearing....and I tend to agree.

[Bearfootfarm]

Illegals are a huge drain on the system.

On that part we agree,

The rest was just the same old rhetoric you always use
The pattern is becoming more visible