Rant on Helicopter loss

tinknal · #1 08/14/11, 12:31 PM

SEAL team this, SEAL team that blah blah blah!

There were 30 brave American service members on that aircraft. Only 17 of them were SEALs. Are not the Army members who died just as precious and important as the SEALs?

I have yet to see an article where that gives more than passing notice to the Army personnel lost in this attack.

chickenslayer · #2 08/14/11, 02:18 PM

They don't make as dramatic a headline. It's sad when any service member dies be it a pathfinder or a cook, either way it is a great loss and all should be remembered with honor.

plowjockey · #3 08/14/11, 04:57 PM

Probably because if they used "30 Military Servicemen die in helicopter crash, due to enemy fire", probably would have not turned many heads, for even one second.

Honestly, I paid no attention to the story, other than to lament the waste of human life and the pain, their families and friends, now have to endure.

It's a sad one, for sure, but goes with the territory of war, which does not appear to be ending any time soon.

They did kill the attackers, which in the end, means nothing.

Other that the news of the attack, everything else is just media entertainment, no matter how sad or gruesome.

Wayne02 · #4 08/14/11, 05:21 PM

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Fallen pilot's 10-year-old: Don't forget my dad

"My father was one of the 30 US Soldiers killed in Afghanistan yesterday with the Seals rescue mission. My father was the pilot of the chinook. I have seen other pictures of victims from this deadly mission and wish you would include a picture of my father. He is the farthest to the left."

Sincerely,
Braydon Nichols, 10 yrs old
Kansas City, MO

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-648315
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/08/09/chi...ort/index.html

tinknal · #5 08/14/11, 08:01 PM

Good for him Wayne. God bless him.

DJ in WA · #6 08/15/11, 02:46 PM

I just wish someone could give me a simple explanation of what we're doing over there to justify all this.

7thswan · #7 08/15/11, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ in WA

I just wish someone could give me a simple explanation of what we're doing over there to justify all this.

It all has to do with Al Qaeda and killing Osama. There are many that believe O is negotiating with the enemy, and basically our Military was Murdered as payback for killing Osama. Course who's going to admmit it?

7thswan · #8 08/15/11, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tinknal

SEAL team this, SEAL team that blah blah blah!

There were 30 brave American service members on that aircraft. Only 17 of them were SEALs. Are not the Army members who died just as precious and important as the SEALs?

I have yet to see an article where that gives more than passing notice to the Army personnel lost in this attack.

Yes they are Tink,just as Important. Many keep looking at the 1 million $ it takes to train each Seal. But then those are the same ones that have issues with some people being "rich".

plowjockey · #9 08/15/11, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ in WA

I just wish someone could give me a simple explanation of what we're doing over there to justify all this.

How this for simple.

We went there looking for Osam bin laden. He was there but had fled to Pakistan.

In the mean time, we kicked the nasty Taliban out of power, although temporarily, to bring in a "Democracy" Government.

The Taliban, the Mujahideen, just like the rest of the riff-raff, that has ruled Afghanistan for the last 1000 years, are now simply playing the "waiting game", hiding out in one of 10,000 caves.

If we pull out, the Taliban will take the country back over, the next week, making the U.S. look like shmucks, for trashing their country, setting up a "puppet" Government and then bailing out.

No U.S. President, so far, wants the end-game, of this fiasco on their hands.

At least until they find a way to blame someone else.

It doesn't really justify anything, it's just the way that it is.

tinknal · #10 08/15/11, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by plowjockey

No U.S. President, so far, wants the end-game, of this fiasco on their hands.

At least until they find a way to blame someone else.

Sounds like a job for Lame Duck Obama in late 2012.........

DJ in WA · #11 08/15/11, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by plowjockey

How this for simple.

We went there looking for Osam bin laden. He was there but had fled to Pakistan.

In the mean time, we kicked the nasty Taliban out of power, although temporarily, to bring in a "Democracy" Government.

The Taliban, the Mujahideen, just like the rest of the riff-raff, that has ruled Afghanistan for the last 1000 years, are now simply playing the "waiting game", hiding out in one of 10,000 caves.

If we pull out, the Taliban will take the country back over, the next week, making the U.S. look like shmucks, for trashing their country, setting up a "puppet" Government and then bailing out.

No U.S. President, so far, wants the end-game, of this fiasco on their hands.

At least until they find a way to blame someone else.

It doesn't really justify anything, it's just the way that it is.

Sounds about right. I keep hoping that it has alittle more to do with national defense.

I've read several young men who come back disillusioned over what they were doing. Hopefully some are such Rambo types that they don't question things too much.

plowjockey · #12 08/15/11, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ in WA

Sounds about right. I keep hoping that it has alittle more to do with national defense.

I've read several young men who come back disillusioned over what they were doing. Hopefully some are such Rambo types that they don't question things too much.

At one time, it did.

Not any more, IMO. We are just stuck there.

FWIW, a good Soldier does not have to like what he is doing. He just has to to it.

All heros in my book.