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08/06/11, 05:56 PM
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Wrote Our Dear Senator
Like it will do any good but blowed off some steam.
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Taking Care of Home
Dear Senator
I'm letting you have my .02 even though I don't think it will really matter.
Just read where China was scolding us on our Debt asking for us to cut Military and Social Programs.First off tell them to kiss off.
I told your representative in Springfield years ago what I thought of NAFTA and all he brought up was the fact we are buying merchandise cheaper.Like I still maintain charge enough Tariffs on Goods being Imported to where it will be better to make it here in the Good Old U.S. of A. Put people back to work making Good wages and Benefits.
We still have a problem with Illegal Latinos taking over some Towns in our fine State.Send them Packing if ICE can't escort them out give MHP authority to.
We need to keep our Military Strong but bring our Troops Home if we don't have money to continue these Wars.
As far as Unemployment in Missouri the Unemployment is much higher than stated.There is so many Homeless it an't funny.See how hard things are because of the price of Scrap metal people are fighting over every little bit.Oh go cut Firewood there is so many cutting they almost have to give it away to sell it same with mowing Lawns.
Senator I see you running your mouth but are you listening? It seems you have pretty good ties with President Obama,start listening to the people do your dang Job.
Thanks
big rockpile
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08/06/11, 07:23 PM
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08/06/11, 11:08 PM
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See ya soon Rock......
in the 're-educational' camps......
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08/07/11, 10:05 AM
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should sent it by here--I'd added my .2 and signed too
you could've explained unemployment much higher 'cause benefits ran out on most--that still cant find a job
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08/07/11, 10:25 AM
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Big rock pile, if you wrote to McCaskill, your effort was wasted. It turns out that Blunt has no backbone and caved also. Who knows, maybe he was in on the deal. Sam Graves voted to pass the bill also. Just when I thought he might stand for something, he joins the herd.
I hope we have some good independents or Tea Party candidates come election time.
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08/07/11, 11:18 AM
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Big rock pile, if you wrote to McCaskill, your effort was wasted. It turns out that Blunt has no backbone and caved also. Who knows, maybe he was in on the deal. Sam Graves voted to pass the bill also. Just when I thought he might stand for something, he joins the herd.
I hope we have some good independents or Tea Party candidates come election time.
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I agree with you on McCaskill, she doesn't bother to answer my letter at all.
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08/07/11, 05:12 PM
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A friend who was working on trying to defeat a law our state was trying to pass told me some interesting info. Keep in mind she spent weeks in and out of their offices. A couple staffers she got to know told her that it goes like this-
Emails get auto generated responses.
Faxes get put in the trash or deleted almost immediately.
Letters are skimmed, and mostly trashed.
The only way you can actually get them to know your opinion if to talk with them face to face, or on the phone, if they will take your call.
That's state level, but I imagine the federal level is just as bad.
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08/07/11, 05:54 PM
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You maybe should of sent him a piece of rope and told him this is what he is bringing.
It is time to wake up America. They don't care about you. It is proven time and time again and still nobody does jack.
I don't mean to over do it, but we need to start taking a hard line.
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08/07/11, 06:04 PM
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You know, thinking about it just now, the problem is this- our political system is based on someone entering public SERVICE, in other words, serving your country by holding office. Our political class sees it as winning a position because they are the best qualified. Meditate on that a bit- the differing world views of someone who is there to SERVE, vs. someone who has WON.
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08/07/11, 06:45 PM
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Rockpile I have sent may letters and emails. All you get back is the "form letter" we appreciate your opinion bla bla bla. I always start out with I know you don't read these but. I have to admit it makes me feel better for a while. They are going to push the people until they quit sending mail and go to the source.
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08/07/11, 07:16 PM
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Rockpile I have sent may letters and emails. All you get back is the "form letter" we appreciate your opinion bla bla bla. I always start out with I know you don't read these but. I have to admit it makes me feel better for a while. They are going to push the people until they quit sending mail and go to the source. 
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Yea I know she use to have Breakfast around the State and some times her representative liked that much better but they preferred you be Democrat. For awhile I called her office every morning for two months.They got to know me well.
big rockpile
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08/08/11, 03:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big rockpile
Like it will do any good but blowed off some steam.
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...... Senator I see you running your mouth but are you listening? It seems you have pretty good ties with President Obama,start listening to the people do your dang Job.
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Yup. You totally blew it due to blowing off steam and running your own mouth.
The whole communique was good, it was even intelligent, except for the last line and then you just had to go and get rude and accusational, didn't you? Getting rude gets one nowhere with important people when you're trying to get them to pay attention.
Next time restrain yourself and don't blow off steam, try to be more diplomatic, at least enough that the communique gets past the screening secretary and in front of the intended recipient.
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08/08/11, 06:55 AM
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Yup. You totally blew it due to blowing off steam and running your own mouth.
The whole communique was good, it was even intelligent, except for the last line and then you just had to go and get rude and accusational, didn't you? Getting rude gets one nowhere with important people when you're trying to get them to pay attention.
Next time restrain yourself and don't blow off steam, try to be more diplomatic, at least enough that the communique gets past the screening secretary and in front of the intended recipient.
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Has it ocurred that the 'important people' WORK FOR US? Our employees?
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08/08/11, 09:15 AM
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Has it ocurred that the 'important people' WORK FOR US? Our employees?
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It is time we all started blowing off steam These people who were elected by us, the voters, are not doing what we sent them to Washington to do. Trickgrama is right, they work for us. When was the last time you deliberately went against what your boss told you to do without getting a tongue lashing. These are just people, they work for us, not big government or some fascist faction. It is time they realized that the voters are fighting mad. If we set back and don't call them on it they go their merry way.
Ever heard the old saying "The customer is always right?" A receptionist or secretary should remain calm and civil to any caller, especially a voter.
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08/08/11, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by naturelover
Yup. You totally blew it due to blowing off steam and running your own mouth.
The whole communique was good, it was even intelligent, except for the last line and then you just had to go and get rude and accusational, didn't you? Getting rude gets one nowhere with important people when you're trying to get them to pay attention.
Next time restrain yourself and don't blow off steam, try to be more diplomatic, at least enough that the communique gets past the screening secretary and in front of the intended recipient.
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I agree~!
No mater how much a person disagrees with a elected official. One should never be using language like that, it will get you No Where. And No Where fast.
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08/08/11, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
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Has it ocurred that the 'important people' WORK FOR US? Our employees?
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Ever heard the old saying "The customer is always right?" A receptionist or secretary should remain calm and civil to any caller, especially a voter.
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Make up your mind Linn. Are you an employer or a customer?
Have you ever heard the old saying "You'll attract more honey bees with nectar than you will with vinegar"?
It doesn't matter if somebody works for you, or if you think the customer is always right. And the customer is not always right anyway.
There is never a good excuse for bullying and verbal abuse towards other people and nobody is required to tolerate abuse. Doesn't matter who you are, who you work for or who works for you.
If you think that verbal abuse is okay then it means you are an abusive and bullying person yourself.
It is NOT normal. It is NOT okay. It is NOT freedom of speech. It is NOT your right to be a bully towards somebody else.
It IS abuse and it's the wrong approach. It's uncivilized and a symptom of a deeply rooted social illness in your society if you think it's okay to be abusive. People in power who get abused by abusive people do not respond well to them. If anything, they tend to either ignore the uncivilized abuser or be more retaliatory than responsive.
Rock's letter was an intelligent letter except for the last line. That last line was a killer that negated the rest of the letter and made him sound like a goof.
Oh, and telling the Senator to tell China to kiss off was a big mistake too. Nobody in their right mind tells their most important creditor to kiss off. That whole attitude of kissing off others instead of maintaining good graces is causing a lot of unprecedented problems.
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08/08/11, 04:57 PM
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Apparently you are very upset by the tone of your post. I don't remember ever stating that verbal abuse was OK.
It seems to me that because I disagreed with your statement you are trying to belittle me with sarcastic remarks and accuse me of being a bully. I could be wrong and don't want to be guilty of falsely accusing anyone. Bullying and abuse can come in many forms, sarcasm, false accusations and unfair criticism are a few of them. All of these are intimidation tactics that are often used when someone feels threatened.
I recall your good advice, perhaps you will recall it the next time you reply to a post. ""You'll attract more honey bees with nectar than you will with vinegar"? "Next time restrain yourself and don't blow off steam, try to be more diplomatic."
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08/08/11, 05:59 PM
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Please show me where I said verbal abuse is OK?
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.... Ever heard the old saying "The customer is always right?" A receptionist or secretary should remain calm and civil to any caller, especially a voter.
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The customer is not always right and the customer has no rights that entitles them to be abusive.
If I was a secretary or receptionist or whatever and some customer got abusive with me, the moment the customer becomes abusive is the moment when the customer ceases to be right. I think it would be wrong for me to respond likewise with more abuse but there is no law that says I have to just lie down and tolerate the abuse and remain calm and civil as you are saying the secretary must do. The best response for me would be to disassociate myself from the abusive customer until the customer has learned to be more civil and mature in their demands.
Likewise, if I am an elected representative who gets letters from the people I represent - I will pay more attention and respect to those letters who show some mutual respect towards me when they want something from me than I will towards those showing lack of respect and being abusive in their demands.
I will reiterate - anyone who thinks it's okay to be disrespectful and abusive to other people when you're trying to get them to be cooperative with you is a bully who's wrong in the head. They may as well be out bullying trees for all the good it will do them.
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08/08/11, 06:13 PM
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Yet it seems to me that you are responding to my comments with hostility and false accusations. The meaning of that old saying was that one should remain civil even in the face of abuse and do one's best to meet the needs of the customer. If you don't agree with that statement, so be it. There is no need for a long harangue.
Last edited by linn; 08/08/11 at 06:42 PM.
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