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08/01/11, 09:26 AM
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Space shuttle program ended
Why isn't everyone talking about this? It seems like it should be all over the news, drawing attention and people talking about it all over. Why not?
http://kpbj.com/business_weekly/2011..._space_program
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=shuttle+program+ending&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGLL_enUS362US362&ie=UTF-8&aq=0&oq=shuttle+program+
What will we do now? I highly doubt if we'll ever have a "commercial" space exploration operation, and if we do, it will end up skewed, corrupted and propagandized. We've done this for a pretty long while, but I suppose the budget did need some cuts. Yet I notice that none of the politicians are very quick to cut back their own salaries, but they will gladly cut back an important scientific operation...
What is your view?
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08/01/11, 09:33 AM
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This is what our next shuttle could look like:
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08/01/11, 10:31 AM
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The space shuttles are being mothballed because they are a failure. They were built to replace rockets to save money an speed up turn around time. The idea was that if you didnt have to build a new space craft every time you could land, take on a new crew an launch fast an cheeply. They were dead wrong. The shuttle is stressed so bad that it takes months an $millions to get it ready for another trip. Ad in the fact that the shuttle is launched with a huge empty cargo bay most of the time. We are driving a giant truck in to space when A VW would do the job. We are going back to the cheaper manned rockets for launching people that we should have stayed with in the first place. An we are going to use bigger rockets for payload as needed. Those rockets are the ones that have put up most of the satellites we have now anyway.
As for coverage. It was covered to death when it was announced an made big news when the other 2 shuttles made there last launches. I think the story has just played out as old news now.
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08/01/11, 10:40 AM
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Like everything else in the country, our space program has been outsourced. At least for a while, we will pay the Russians to haul our astronauts into space. Supposedly, private companies will take over the job in the future.
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08/01/11, 10:50 AM
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I once read the James Mischner book "Space" .
The program spent crazy amounts of money on the smallest dumb things?
I think the program was a huge waste of money.
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08/01/11, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by manfred
I once read the James Mischner book "Space" .
The program spent crazy amounts of money on the smallest dumb things?
I think the program was a huge waste of money.
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How can you say that? The space program brought us such advances as Tang ( do they still make that stuff? ), superglue, and pens that write upside down. Can you imagine what life would be without those discoveries?
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08/01/11, 11:13 AM
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We spent millions to make a pen that worked in zero gravity an the Russians bough a pencil....
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08/01/11, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by poppy
How can you say that? The space program brought us such advances as Tang ( do they still make that stuff? ), superglue, and pens that write upside down. Can you imagine what life would be without those discoveries?
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Not to mention expanding our knowledge and allowing us to do something never before thought possible, perhaps not even dreamed of!
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08/01/11, 12:07 PM
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Don't forget this is just Manned Space Program that is done for the moment. They have another one to replace the shuttle on the drawing boards.
And in the mean time NASA will Still be flying Space craft.
They will and in fact getting one ready right now to fly, NASA's Jupiter-Bound Juno Spacecraft Mated to its Rocket. And in 2016 will get to Jupiter.
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08/01/11, 12:13 PM
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Not to mention expanding our knowledge and allowing us to do something never before thought possible, perhaps not even dreamed of!
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From the looks of things, we would have been wiser to expand our knowledge of economics here on earth. You are right about one thing though, our ancestors wouldn't have dreamed that we could be 14 trillion in debt with another 9 trillion already planned for.
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08/01/11, 12:36 PM
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Unless I am mistaking TANG was created for the U.S. retail market. Didn't sell. Then manufacturer talked NASA into the astronauts using it. It then became a hit.
Can anyone give an example of something which wouldn't have been created anyway dispite the space program?
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08/01/11, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken Scharabok
Unless I am mistaking TANG was created for the U.S. retail market. Didn't sell. Then manufacturer talked NASA into the astronauts using it. It then became a hit.
Can anyone give an example of something which wouldn't have been created anyway dispite the space program?
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The dead astronauts.
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08/01/11, 12:46 PM
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Correct. I was in the Navy at the time of Apollo One and we were already out in the recovery area waiting for the launch. A JFK moment.
We lost a total of what? 17? Russia admittedly lost three, but some speculate up to five.
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08/01/11, 02:40 PM
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The space program was one of America greatest accompishments, It was probably one of the most expensive, in history.
Couldn't be more proud of it.
That said, I'm now more interested in regaining the finanacial solvency, of my country, more than I am, a mission to Mars.
Our world on earth, is the real world.
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08/01/11, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Heritagefarm
Why isn't everyone talking about this? It seems like it should be all over the news, drawing attention and people talking about it all over. Why not?
http://kpbj.com/business_weekly/2011..._space_program
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=s...uttle+program+
What will we do now? I highly doubt if we'll ever have a "commercial" space exploration operation, and if we do, it will end up skewed, corrupted and propagandized. We've done this for a pretty long while, but I suppose the budget did need some cuts. Yet I notice that none of the politicians are very quick to cut back their own salaries, but they will gladly cut back an important scientific operation...
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Why talk about it? Obama gave NASA a new mission and that mission was to "have better relations with Muslims". That mission seems to have outweighed any and all other missions. So as far as I'm concerned NASA is a dead bureaucratic puppet of the liberal left.. No need to bother with it.. Any and all moneys will not go towards exploration of our Universe, but it will be funneled into Liberal causes...
Sorry, no need to fight the obvious losses.. Time to move on and start another group to explore our Universe and write NASA off as a loss..
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08/01/11, 03:20 PM
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So as far as I'm concerned NASA is a dead bureaucratic puppet of the liberal left...
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Er... What? Where'd that come from? 
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08/01/11, 03:41 PM
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The expected lifetime of the International Space State is to 2012, at which time the Russians will send commands for it to fall into the Pacific Ocean.
On the Hubble Space Telescope, why can't they strap on a rocket and send it to a higher orbit?
Exploration of other planets, yes. Manned missions, no.
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The majority of the space program should be ended. There are some useful things that they do, but most are unnecessary and wasteful in spending.
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Read my first post in this thread! That will answer your question. Oh wait you did already and only quoted a sentence from it..
Since Obama changed the mission of NASA to helping Muslims. NASA is no longer an exploratory entity. It is now a puppet of the liberal left.. When the left choose to allow this Muslim mission (it wouldn't make any difference what religious group was mentioned), they have changed the face of NASA to a political bureaucracy, much like the EPA, DoE etc.. The fools that work for these bureaucracies are nothing but political pawns for which ever party is in power at the moment... They do nothing to help, they only add red tape and cost to anything that is done.. Now NASA has joined their ranks of wasteful government carp and as a result they will be "lower then whale dung on the bottom of the ocean" in my personal opinion!
Feel free to have a different opinion, it makes no never mind to me. These government agencies should now be shut down and shut down hard! They pass rules and statues/regs without Congress' approval.. They now have the power not Congress.. Sorry I have a problem with that! It is a violation of the Constitution of the most extreme kind..
I'll stop now and let you digest what I said...
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08/03/11, 07:33 PM
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No future need for NASA. Soon, our space questions will all be answered. Our govt may be preparing to disclose our (their?) relationship with ETs over the past 50 years. We're one of the last countries to declass/disclose this stuff.
Conspiracy theorists, et al, can watch here:
(~10 mins)
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