As new info continues to emerge

[Tiempo]

How far will it go? How do you think it should be handled?

http://news.yahoo.com/allegations-be...212626058.html

LONDON (AP) — Rupert Murdoch's media empire was besieged Monday by accusations that two more of his British newspapers engaged in hacking, deception and privacy violations that included accessing former Prime Minister Gordon Brown's bank account information and stealing the medical records of his seriously ill baby son.

His reporters were also accused of paying Queen Elizabeth II's bodyguards for secret information about the monarch, potentially jeopardizing her safety.

[plowjockey]

I wouldn't be a bit surpirsed to see many other "news" agencies, looking pretty worried, also.

Rake em' over the coals.

[copperkid3]

but as an 'American' now......don't you believe we should keep our noses out of other countries dirty laundry............???


(I still can't believe "O" illegally violated Libya's sovereignty......yeah, right!)

[Tiempo]

Originally Posted by copperkid3

but as an 'American' now......don't you believe we should keep our noses out of other countries dirty laundry............???


(I still can't believe "O" illegally violated Libya's sovereignty......yeah, right!)

I think it's still ok to have opinions about events in other countries and to discuss them. That's hardly poking our noses in.

[poppy]

Originally Posted by Tiempo

I think it's still ok to have opinions about events in other countries and to discuss them. That's hardly poking our noses in.

Bombing government troops in Libya and demanding that their leader leave office when they were no threat to us whatsoever is far more than poking our noses in their business.

[naturelover]

Originally Posted by copperkid3

as an 'American' now......don't you believe we should keep our noses out of other countries dirty laundry............???

You sound like you are trying to curtail and censor other people's freedom of speech and expression of personal opinions based on their nationality.

The media is everywhere and doesn't mind it's own business - it makes everything everyone elses business, yours included. If a media group in one country can cause danger for a head of state in one country what's to say that kind of dirty laundry won't spill over into other media endangering your own country and heads of state? Why should you not discuss the potential for that, whoever and wherever you are?

Originally Posted by Tiempo

I think it's still ok to have opinions about events in other countries and to discuss them. That's hardly poking our noses in.

What Tiempo said. Since when is it not okay for anyone to have opinions? Since when should a person not be allowed to speculate and express opinions because of their nationality?

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[Tiempo]

Originally Posted by poppy

Bombing government troops in Libya and demanding that their leader leave office when they were no threat to us whatsoever is far more than poking our noses in their business.

What on earth does that have to do with the op?

[naturelover]

Originally Posted by Tiempo

How far will it go? How do you think it should be handled?

http://news.yahoo.com/allegations-be...212626058.html

From the article:

London's Evening Standard newspaper reported that corrupt royal protection officers sold personal details about Queen Elizabeth II — including phone numbers and tips about her movements and staff — to journalists working for the Murdoch tabloid News of the World, raising questions over a breach in national security.

There's no question about it - that is espionage and breach in national security and it absolutely infuriates me. I think the officers who sold the information and the journalists who published it should be pilloried and then drawn and quartered then fed to the fishes.

Well, maybe not that extreme but I do think they should be punished to the fullest extent the law allows for committing espionage against Her Royal Highness.

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[copperkid3]

sounds like it. I guess it's not how you say it.....it's who you say it about.....

Case in point on the poor newscaster who got canned the other day for calling O a part
of the male anatomy.......http://www.good.is/post/is-calling-t...-him-a-racist/

Guess that 'freedom of speech' only works for liberals who fancy they have a handle
on 'others' freedoms......so much for that left-leaning '(IN)tolerance' we've been told about.
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Originally Posted by naturelover

You sound like you are trying to curtail and censor other people's freedom of speech and expression of personal opinions based on their nationality.

The media is everywhere and doesn't mind it's own business - it makes everything everyone elses business, yours included. If a media group in one country can cause danger for a head of state in one country what's to say that kind of dirty laundry won't spill over into other media endangering your own country and heads of state? Why should you not discuss the potential for that, whoever and wherever you are?




What Tiempo said. Since when is it not okay for anyone to have opinions? Since when should a person not be allowed to speculate and express opinions because of their nationality?.

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I think we've already covered that above......it's ONLY okay to have an 'opinion' if it matches
what the liberal media wants it to be......otherwise they'll hang you out to dry.

[naturelover]

I think you should start a separate topic about what you're talking about in your last post. It doesn't have anything to do with this topic or about a media group committing espionage against the British Queen.

Oh, and I don't know if you're a racist or not and nobody called you that. I think the proper word you were looking for was nationalist. A nationalist is someone who is devoted strictly to the interests of their own nation and has no care or interest about any other nations, it has nothing to do with race or racism.

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[Bearfootfarm]

a media group committing espionage against the British Queen.

Was it "a media group" or a couple of INDIVIDUALS who worked for a media group?

It's too early to condemn the whole organization just because many don't like Murdoch

[naturelover]

Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm

Was it "a media group" or a couple of INDIVIDUALS who worked for a media group?

It's too early to condemn the whole organization just because many don't like Murdoch

Well, Murdoch and his organization have already been condemned and yesterday was their last day of business for the British tabloid, this will just be one more serious nail in their coffins and a few more people to throw in the coffins with them. And if it was only a couple of individuals or a group makes no difference. If the information was published by Murdoch's publishing organization then he and his editors who approved it and the journalists that bought it and would get reimbursed by the organization for the information, and the Queen's officer's who sold it to them, and those who hacked into the Prime Minister's bank accounts - they are ALL guilty of espionage against the Queen and breach of national security and personal banking information. I say hang them all high out to dry and good riddance for being so utterly stupid and capitalistic, endangering the Queen and the Prime Minister, and the whole organization sabotaging and victimizing the family of that child murder victim. It's absolutely disgusting and reprehensible.

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[naturelover]

Originally Posted by Del Gue

Please let foxnews be next
Please let foxnews be next
Please let foxnews be next

You never know, it might very well happen. Murdoch owns Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and the New York Post among other holdings in the United States.

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[Murray in ME]

Originally Posted by Del Gue

Please let foxnews be next
Please let foxnews be next
Please let foxnews be next

Good grief.

If people broke the law, they should be prosecuted. Period. Including Rupert Murdoch if he knew about it. But, just like for anyone else, it needs to be proven in court. If anyone is proven guilty, punish them to the full extent of the law.

It's kind of sad to see anyone responding almost gleefully about something like this and wanting it to happen to fox news. If you dislike fox so much, just don't watch it. It's not hard to change the channel to one of the many other media outlets.

[zant]

I'm FAR more concerned with US gov't selling guns to drug cartels that have killed US LEO's and selling guns to MS13 in Honduras....where's the wonderful old liberal media when it comes to these stories...wonder if they've been "compromised" by the DC regime??

[farmerpat]

Originally Posted by Del Gue

Please let foxnews be next
Please let foxnews be next
Please let foxnews be next

And ref: the original OP:

Gee, it couldn't be because Ruport Murdoch owns the CONSERVATIVE TV station "Fox News", could it? Of course it could!!

Things will come out in court and justice will be done, regardless of who did what. I also agree that we have ALOT worse issues going on in this country than to worry about what happens in England right now. If you don't believe that, just OPEN A NEWSPAPER!

ETA: if you don't like a certain news outlet, then don't watch it. I wouldn't watch CNN or MSNBC at gunpoint, but there are those who do. Good for them. If they wanna fry their brain with the likes of Chris (Obama tingly leg syndome) Matthews, more power to them...

[Bearfootfarm]

Well, Murdoch and his organization have already been condemned

Of course he has.

With no PROOF he was personally involved.

No one has been convicted of any crimes, and yet many want a hanging

[MoonRiver]

At this point, your info is accusations and not facts. Let those that supposedly broke the law be charged in a court of law, rather than the court of public opinion.

[MELOC]

imagine that...i have been checking in for a whole week to see what people had to say about all of this...and FINALLY...here we go!

[farmerpat]

Originally Posted by naturelover

Well, Murdoch and his organization have already been condemned and yesterday was their last day of business for the British tabloid, this will just be one more serious nail in their coffins and a few more people to throw in the coffins with them. And if it was only a couple of individuals or a group makes no difference.
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FYI -- It was Murdoch HIMSELF who shut down the paper because he was so outraged at what had been done right under his own nose.

By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 7/7/11 7:17 AM EDT Updated: 7/8/11 6:11 AM EDT
Rupert Murdoch is taking the extraordinary step of closing the News of the World - the best-read paper in the English language - in the midst of a widening phone hacking scandal, it was announced on Thursday.

James Murdoch, the deputy chief operating officer of News Corporation, told the paper’s 100 employees that Sunday will be the 168-year-old weekly publication’s last edition. He said all the revenues from this final edition will go to good causes and “while we may never be able to make up for distress that has been caused, the right thing to do is for every penny of the circulation revenue we receive this weekend to go to organisations – many of whom are long-term friends and partners – that improve life in Britain and are devoted to treating others with dignity.”

“The good things the News of the World does … have been sullied by behaviour that was wrong. Indeed, if recent allegations are true, it was inhuman and has no place in our company,” James Murdoch said. “The News of the World is in the business of holding others to account. But it failed when it came to itself.”

Tom Watson, a member of Parliament who has been active in calling for investigations of News of the World’s hacking said that the shutdown was a logical move.

“No one was going to buy this paper anymore,” he said Thursday, the Guardian reported. “No one was going to advertise in it. They destroyed this paper.”

The decision comes as news emerges that police could be preparing to arrest several of the paper’s journalists and executives within days, as new evidence has emerged suggesting the phone accounts of soldiers who died in combat were among those broken into.

Andy Coulson, the paper’s former editor, has been told by police that he will be arrested on Friday morning, the Guardian reported, and another senior journalist is expected to also be arrested in the coming days.



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